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Page 1 trends match the trends on the 1004 MC. The 1004MC trends do not have to result from the data in the 1004MC. The trends can be from supplemental analysis included in the report.

My understanding of it anyways.
That is correct. That is the current FNMA way. Unfortunately, CAN and UC have it wrong with this below. The trend boxes in page are not supposed to reflect the broader 1 unit housing as the heading states, rather it must be the same as the comparables trend on the 1004MC. The trend box of page 1 are the trends of what comparable sales are experiencing, thus must reflect the same. This is a FNMA screw up that the "experts" with skin in the game won't admit.
Page 1 is not the same and is broader. That's because there may be all sorts of different properties in the same neighborhood.
ALL sales within the subject's defined neighborhood reported on One-Unit Housing on page 1.
Top of page 2 and MC reflects a refined sale search of only sales considered comparable to the subject located within the subject's defined neighborhood.
 
"...per Fannie should reflect the analysis of the MC form ."

If SHOULD is the actual word, then TREND section on page one doesn't always have to match MC.
You either should or shouldn't. You're mixing up "should" with "could"
 
" 'Rich writes:
The One-Unit Housing Trends are Submarket specific. That is, they apply only to neighborhood properties that are comparable to the subject.

While that may be, the heading should have been changed to "Comparable Housing Trends", not "One-Unit Housing Trends"
This is completely misleading and FNMA is forcing appraisers to be misleading.
 
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double post

Good morning ResGuy....

I decided to respond to your double post.

"Should" has meaning.

There are times the trend on MC is different from reality so I employee reality and add a comment why MC and page 1 don't match.....
 
Comparable? That is the question. In a rural area that can get a little squishy. For example when I put in the search critieria I try to put in parameters that I would do a search on. And lenders don't want to use sale price criteria. And I understand that, but then I get these ridiculous ranges in values that have properties that aren't the least comparable due to differences in quality or other features like view. When I go through and eliminate those not comparable then it ends up with a definite price range. So typically when I know a house is going to be in that 200,000 range, I prefer to search by specific criteria such as GLA, acreage, age, and then by price range. But that's not what I put in the 1004MC, because they don't want you to search by a price range. But if I don't then I really don't get what I consider comparables. The 1004MC is all smoke and mirrors. Time to dump it.

I wouldn't say the MC is smoke and mirrors, I would say it;s awkward and not the best form, thus we end up supplementing it most of the time in our research

As far as price range , clients don't want it to be our only search, or sole search criteria. But we are "allowed" (sarcasm) to make as many searches by different criteria as we find meaningful. And at some point, a search by price range is meaningful. And though our value comes from the characteristics of competing properties to subject, at some point, the price enters into it as part of defining the typically motivated buyer.

Typically, a buyer for a 250k price home is not the same buyer for a 350k price home. Buyers are limited by budget due to income and available cash (except the ultra wealthy). Most buyers, even in upper price ranges, have a limit to what they can spend or are willing to spend, thus price range is meaningful. It's one of the first things a RE agent asks a buyer ( what can you pay).

Buyers have a top, a mid and low end of their budget. They may tell a RE agent, I can spend 220-230k but maybe more if I love the house. That buyer might stretch to 250k to buy a house they love. But they lack the income/cash to go above that. Thus, using a 350k price comp for a 250k range subject is not reading the typically motivated buyer for subject correctly. Of course there are exceptions and markets where a wide range of price is all that exists, But buyers shop in a range of affordability and usually comps tend to cluster around a certain range for a particular property, with a high or low sale the outlier.

If an appraiser can not define what kind of properties are comparable to the subject, or what comprises the "neighborhood" for a subject, they are not competent for the assignment.
 
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There are times the trend on MC is different from reality so I employee reality and add a comment why MC and page 1 don't match.....
The trend on the MC must reflect reality...same with page one. The trend boxes do not have to correlate with the comp data to the left of it.

https://www.fanniemae.com/content/FAQ/appraisal-property-report-faqs.pdf
Q17. Are the trends that are reported on the Market Conditions Addendum to the Appraisal Report (Form 1004MC) the same trends that are to be reported in the One-Unit Housing Trends section of the appraisal report (Form 1004)?
  • Yes. The conclusions regarding trends that are obtained from the Form 1004MC must be the same trends reported in the Neighborhood trends section of the Form 1004.
 
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Good morning ResGuy....
I decided to respond to your double post.
"Should" has meaning.
There are times the trend on MC is different from reality so I employee reality and add a comment why MC and page 1 don't match.....
Time to put aside word games with "Should" and "must "/ what you perceive as reality. It's clear from the Fannie directive ( see # 68 above) what they want on trend box section on page one...that it match conclusions from MC form ( conclusions means not just the data on grid, if data is very limited, but drawn from the limited data on grid and data of similar properties/comparable properties for trends on page one, ( not the general market.)
 
I totally understand what you are saying, hence why I said earlier that page one and FNMA instructions are misleading. One Unit Housing is broader than competing properties of comps on the 1004MC. Some UAD/FNMA "experts" here have skin in the game, whether it's FNMA classes they teach or they are tied to companies that sell to GSEs....and I find they may find it in their best interest to say things a certain way and not rock the hand that feeds them.
Are you referencing me in the last sentence above?
 
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