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From Order Acceptance to Delivery.

Drive maybe 15 to 20 minutes away(yesterday 2 within 5 minutes).
Photograph and Measure(30 minutes on average). Everything is done on site from a mobile app.
Sketch it at home(5 minutes).
Done.

$75/$90 for an hour of work some even less depending on distance, home size, etc. Jumping onto the inspection side before it fills up. I love this part of the appraisal. Plus limited liability because I know how to measure correctly and answer questions.


Just curious, but what measurement standard/format are you using? Do they specify how they want it measured? Rounded off to the nearest 6" or foot? ANSI standard? Modified ANSI?
 
rancrdk- As I read through these Posts & others, it is becoming very clear to me that there ARE adequate numbers of "what will we call them" doing these 1004P -type services
for FEEs much less than what I would call "acceptable" FOR operating a business. Including the inspection or the form parts, no matter.
Once again, " setting this LOW Fee Range Offering as Standard or Typical " = we hang ourselves by those who won't hold out & request fees
that would cover the OFFSET of lack of FULL FEE work.


I was trying to convey same in my it is not an hourly rate thread. If appraisers fall for the $50 fee from a client-as $50 is an okay hourly rate"- that appraiser is an IDIOT. These clients are not providing 8 hours a day volume , rather a scattering of orders with fast turn times that disrupt other work. ( fees seem not for 1004P, rather for desktop hybrids //reviews, but 1004 P will see same problems )

We can't say what a fee "should be" ...try double what is offered when it is a low fee - It has to be worthwhile to stay in business .

There is fear present- appraiser fear if we don't work cheap they will use an AVM- if a client orders an appraisal, they have already vetted the property or loan and need an appraisal and can' use an AVM.
Staff appraisers share blame for the exploitation of appraisers by clients who think appraiser are chumps- it starts at the staff level because many staff appraisers accept low base salaries that makes them pump out volume for meager bonus per order, instead of insisting on a professional level base salary.


Interesting no staff appraisers post much here. That is very convenient. LOL

The Shawshank Redemption is one of my favorite movies. Watch the first minute or so where the accused says " I find it very inconvenient" lol

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...A86F4705C73D56B1FECFA86F4705C73D56B&FORM=VIRE
 
Perhaps the employer has staff appraiser sign not to discuss the job on social media.e
 
See, it points to something that no staff appraisers post here much. There is no way around it pointing to something.
 
Perhaps the employer has staff appraiser sign not to discuss the job on social media.e


Your stretching there maybe. Idk.
 
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Part of my job is reading motivations. I definitely know there is a motivation not to post here. I am not sure what that or those motivations are.
 
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Perhaps the employer has staff appraiser sign not to discuss the job on social media.e

Let's say your right. How does that transpire?
 
Summary. Test the waters. For pushback. Start with an Offer of $45 - $50 (suggesting fee represents an hourly rate will SURELY make acceptance attractive) and see how many idiot Appraisers hop on board and accept.



"WE" are once again on the doorstep of being our own worst enemy.

If any appraiser accepts a 1004P at any fee LESS than the part of Full 1004 fee they allocate to the "in office" portion of the job, then they need to quickly find another line of work.

For example, if you charge $450 for a standard 1004 and you determine the breakdown is $125 on site inspection and $325 for "in office" work (.i.e. producing the appraisal), then why in the world would you accept a 1004P at anything less than $325 ? The 1004 and 1004P are the same darn report, with the same amount of research, analysis and report prep. What would lead you to accept $150 ? or $175? or anything near these numbers?

The AMC's are going to try and drive the 1004P price down to substantially increase their margins....

I hope some of us are smart enough to figure this out......I have my doubts....
 
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