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I measure every chance I get so the only ones I don't measure are the ones where I don't get out of the car. I do all subject 'observations' as if I'm doing a full URAR and started doing them like that when the order was for a 2055 interior and then they came back and wanted it on a URAR. I had to go back on that one, but decided it wouldn't happen again! Now, it's no big deal if they change it from a 2055 to a URAR, I have everything I need already. Sketch is included in all except the drive bys.

BTW - if they want a value out of me, my base fee applies no matter what form they want.
 
I second Pamela. I use the first sheet of the URAR to gather info for the appraisal regardless of the form. (URAR or 2055). I measure the house too. Then I know I have the correct information. I figure the extra time saves my HIPS. And I charge accordingly too.

Just measure it. You will never regret having good data.
 
Thank you everybody for your replies. I think I'll just measure the house and be smart.
 
Originally posted by Mike Garrett, RAA@May 29 2003, 02:25 PM
An appraisal is an appraisal. You are responsible for the data you include in the report.

"what would your peers have done?".
AMEN MIKE. My policy was, is and always will be confirm your data. Even if it is a 2055 exterior and the owner lets me I will measure and look at the inside of the subject. The person that signs the appraisal is the one that is responsible for ALL of the information in it.

jsradcliffe, take the advice of experience don't let the type of form the client asks for determine the type of appraisal you do. You are responsible for everything. If it goes to court and your opposition has a half decent attorney that can read USPAP you will lose. Remember you are the professional and the court will always be more critical of you and your actions than that of a homeowner or a mortgage lender.

CONFIRM!
CONFIRM!
CONFIRM!
CONFIRM!
CONFIRM!
 
Has anyone every heard of an appraiser getting in trouble, either in Court or with the state board, because of a 2055 with incorrect GLA? Yes, anything is possible, and I would be interested in hearing comments from anyone that has seen this happen, but this seems far fetched to me.

In theory, you should have a good understanding with your client about the intended use and scope of work. I know that in practice, it is not always possible to have a detailed discussion with the client about what will and won't get done (scope of work). It seems reasonable to me that if the client asks for 2055 exterior inspection (drive by), they have no right to expect you to measure. If the client asks for 2055 with interior inspection, it is not quite as clear cut, and this thread shows that opinions vary, even among "experts". If an appraiser did a 2055 with interior, did not measure, and disclosed that they did not measure in the report, it is hard for me to imagine a scenario where this would come back to haunt the appraiser. Impossible? No, not impossible.

I see the 2055 as an effort to provide the client with an option to spend less money when a limited scope of work is acceptable. For example, the borrower currently owes $100K on a house that they bought 8 years ago, they have been making the payments right on time every month. The out of town lender just wants to verify that the house did not burn down recently. It is a very low risk loan, the client wants to improve turn time and keep the expense down. In this example, the appraisal industry shoots itself in the foot by saying, either full fee (and normal turn time) or find someone else.

No appraisal is ever 100% reliable. No matter how much work you do, there is always something more that you could have done to make that appraisal "better". Where you draw the line and say "enough", and move on to the next report is always a judgment call. I am not advocating shoddy or misleading work.
 
2055 interior - Yes

2055 exterior / drive-by - I usually check available on-line records to see if there is a GLA listed. If there is, I won't measure the place.

If there is no record on line I'll measure it. Kind of hard to come up with GLA if you don't. A basic house shouldn't take you more than a couple minutes anyway. Nobody gets a sketch for a drive-by though, just the GLA.

I've actually measured some ranches and colonials using the Disto while sitting in the car on the street. Pyth the front, pull up a little, bounce it off a downspout on the rear corner, then subtract from the front. Next.........
 
jsradcliffe,

Remember, the form does not dictate the type of analysis or reporting option you do. You could do a driveby narrative self contained report.

Your client has asked for a full inspection of a scaled down form.
 
I'm trying to follow this thread closely, but I'm farily busy. If someone discovers that we don't have to measure anything for a URAR can you PM me please? I'll be mad as hell about lost time in the past, but I'll wager I can double my productivity in the future.
 
Bobby...show me in USPAP where it says "appraiser must measure"?????? Does say you are responsible for the data in your report.
 
USPAP does not ever mention form #'s at all.

USPAP does NOT require a physical inspection of the property, measurement or photos.

ALL of those things are covered in your limiting conditions/certification statement. We should all READ what we sign and make sure we have done what we said we would do or not do.

The FANNIE MAE limiting conditions that we use (and is specificly designed for) for varius types of appraisal products dictates what we must do....beyond USPAP.

Read the DIFFERENT Limiting Condition and CERTIFICATION statements for the URAR,
2055 and other common appraisa forms.
 
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