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I saw that Claude is watermarking their AI now. We were looking to restructure some of the processes in the business, and multiple people were pushing me to let AI handle the report writing element. I wasn't fully comfortable with that, but after hearing about the watermarking, it is definitely out. Wouldn't want to testify on an appraisal and an attorney is able to unpack that the report is written by AI.

It is just a matter of time before someone comes out with an app that hides traces of AI modifications. For example, you really just need an app to switch synonyms. The best switch is US English words for like meaning UK equivalents that are ONLY spelled differently - or vice versa.

Claude doesn't keep track of multiple changes to a text. -- Only the last session. If it has modified only a few words or sentences, it likely won't find enough of its changes to come to a firm conclusion that it made any modifications to the original text. Sometimes it simply can't come up with alternative words for what it has written. Sometimes the chance that the user has actually chosen the given words is already so high that it can't claim it was the author. But long text is a different story. Maybe. It's iffy. And again, any text that has gone through multiple changes is suspicious - because Claude actually is legally required not to maintain a memory of its chats beyond a certain number of days (privacy laws).

IMO, it's mostly to spook people - and so be it. Nothing wrong with that.

Claude is ALWAYS trying to get credit for the work it does. It would be happy to claim it is doing most of the real work in the world. That's its ego.

We all know it does a lot of work. Only we also know it is capable of MAJOR screw-ups. So, take it all with a grain of salt. It really doesn't understand anything at all, but it is a very good actor, and you will be inclined at times to think it is a genius.

As for the attorneys. What are they going to say? YOU are responsible for the work Claude does. It is your job to make sure that Claude doesn't screw up. If it does, you only have yourself to blame.
 
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I am not sure I understand your logic. Suppose the text is run by Claude who returns the text it "thinks" it has modified. Let's say Claude claims that it modified 3 sentences in 100 sentences,
Was there supposed to be a longer post?

I haven't yet taken this cycle's USPAP, so maybe it was discussed in then, but I certainly foresee that the next frontier of USPAP updates will be devoted to AI.

Attorneys will use anything they can against you, and if you admit to letting AI write a report after it is detected, it doesn't take much of a stretch of imagination that they would want to press on that as much as possible - Even if it is just 3 sentences out of 100, as you say. Not sure about California, but I wouldn't trust our state's regulatory agency to be lax about AI-written reports if one makes it to their desk.

The problem is not the 99% of the reports that are fine, it is the 1% where something slips through the cracks. If it is human error, then there *might* be some grace given, depending on the issue. If it is an error due to AI that is not caught in the QC process, then it is gross negligence.
 
Examples where users have taken responsibility for AI mistakes (provided by AI):
  • Moffatt v. Air Canada (2024): A British Columbia tribunal ruled that an airline was fully liable for a chatbot that gave a grieving passenger incorrect information about bereavement fare discounts. Air Canada argued the chatbot was responsible for its own separate mistakes, but the court rejected this, stating a company is responsible for all information on its website. [1, 2]
  • Autopilot Crash Verdicts (2025–2026): In a landmark Florida liability case, a court found Tesla partially responsible (33% at fault) in a fatal pedestrian crash involving its Autopilot system. The jury ruled that the software was defectively designed for certain roads and oversold, marking a major shift where automakers share direct blame alongside the human driver. [1, 2]
  • Sanctions on Lawyers for AI Faked Citations: Multiple U.S. federal judges have penalized attorneys who submitted briefs containing fake AI-generated case law. Courts made it clear that the defense of "the AI hallucinated" does not excuse professional negligence or a lack of human verification. [1]
 
Was there supposed to be a longer post?

I haven't yet taken this cycle's USPAP, so maybe it was discussed in then, but I certainly foresee that the next frontier of USPAP updates will be devoted to AI.

Attorneys will use anything they can against you, and if you admit to letting AI write a report after it is detected, it doesn't take much of a stretch of imagination that they would want to press on that as much as possible - Even if it is just 3 sentences out of 100, as you say. Not sure about California, but I wouldn't trust our state's regulatory agency to be lax about AI-written reports if one makes it to their desk.

The problem is not the 99% of the reports that are fine, it is the 1% where something slips through the cracks. If it is human error, then there *might* be some grace given, depending on the issue. If it is an error due to AI that is not caught in the QC process, then it is gross negligence.

Nobody can prove you did or didn't write some text, unless they can position themselves between the real source (if it is not you) and yourself , which in the case of AI is not very possible. And even if that were the case, even IF you admit the text was written by AI, if you put your signature on it as approving the contents as if they were your own words - well that happens all the time in business when bosses have their secretaries or subordinates write up contracts or letters for them to sign.

I think nowadays everyone is starting to assume that most text that looks "perfect" was probably created with AI or with the help of a grammar checker.

It's only a certain level of idiots around that think otherwise. Silly creatures! Idiots.

If you are smart, you will use tools to get the job done faster, even if you could do it yourself. That is what smart people do. And the smart ones will review and make changes with things they don't agree with or can't clearly understand (if that is the case).

You are just making a fool out of yourself with all this BS.

Now, if some attorney asks you point blank: "Did you write this yourself?" and you lie and claim you did, then if he can prove you lied, -> that is your bad. What you should always do is say something to the effect that you had some AI write the initial draft to save time, and then you carefully reviewed it, made some necessary changes (which you most likely will anyway), and then signed it - and you take responsibility for the contents. You don't need to go into details as to what part the AI wrote and which part you did, because, quite frankly, you have to take responsibility for the entire text.

Now that leaves the dumb****s who can't read, or are too lazy to read and review the text the AI generated, with their neck on the chopping block; if they later can't answer certain questions they should be able to answer if they understood the text the AI generated. Of course, you may not remember the context or details of some text you signed your name to months or years ago. That becomes a judgment call for the judge and/or jury.

I can see, like I imply, certain people getting themselves in trouble putting their name on AI-generated text, they don't really understand. - Think twice about what you are doing.
 
Nobody can prove you did or didn't write some text, unless they can position themselves between the real source (if it is not you) and yourself , which in the case of AI is not very possible.
I think that you may have forgotten that the entire point of my first post was that Claude is getting watermarked, so that it can be detected. The current AI detection tools are spotty, but reading the link below suggests that it can clearly be identified.


"Watermarking doesn’t change the meaning or experience for the person reading it, but if you wanted to check after the fact whether the text was likely generated by Claude, the watermark allows you to do so."

"We’re implementing watermarking to comply with the EU AI Act. Anthropic, along with several other major AI model providers and around 190 total signatories, signed the EU Code of Practice on Transparency of AI-Generated Content in July 2026. This requires AI system providers to use methods of “marking” AI-generated text."
 
I am building a raspberry pi 5 mini server and using my 5080 GPU to locally host a 20 billion parameter openai model to do just this and keep all of my AI work completely off the cloud. As far as what USPAP says about AI just says you are 100% responsible for whatever it is output is. And if you are using cloud-based AI to not put confidential client information on there. So once I get my parts in and test it I'll be more than happy to tell everyone who asks that I use AI I'll also use it to help review reports. As long as you show due diligence in keeping your data private you're covered.

AMD just came out with a with a 128 GB unified memory AI box that also works like a mini Mac. A dgx spark from Nvidia and another box from ROG Strix do the same thing. And almost getting more efficient one of these boxes will grace my presence but they all are priced around $3,000.

I just found another amazing use for GPT and asked it if it completely delete my Gmail inbox which I rarely use but is always full as is my g drive. In 30 seconds it deleted 5,000 Gmail. And I automatically turned off photos syncing to Google photos and now I have a usable Google drive again

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AMD just came out with a with a 128 GB unified memory AI box that also works like a mini Mac. A dgx spark from Nvidia and another box from ROG Strix do the same thing. And almost getting more efficient one of these boxes will grace my presence but they all are priced around $3,000.

$3k is kind of a steal for that spec right now. Would probably run Qwen 3.8 27B very well.

Using selfhosted models combined with big subscription models is probably the future for the independent user. Not to mention the only affordable option.
 
I think that you may have forgotten that the entire point of my first post was that Claude is getting watermarked, so that it can be detected. The current AI detection tools are spotty, but reading the link below suggests that it can clearly be identified.


"Watermarking doesn’t change the meaning or experience for the person reading it, but if you wanted to check after the fact whether the text was likely generated by Claude, the watermark allows you to do so."

"We’re implementing watermarking to comply with the EU AI Act. Anthropic, along with several other major AI model providers and around 190 total signatories, signed the EU Code of Practice on Transparency of AI-Generated Content in July 2026. This requires AI system providers to use methods of “marking” AI-generated text."

A techie I follow on IG says since everyone is doing it (except Grok) it's no biggie and specifically for SEO/GEO google bot doesn't care unless you spam your site with BS pages or it's not authoritative. It's everywhere already as long as we comply with confidentiality and it's a tool and not your replacement we'll be fine. The whole AI sphere moving to the EU standard is the gross part lol
 
I think that you may have forgotten that the entire point of my first post was that Claude is getting watermarked, so that it can be detected. Current AI detection tools are spotty, but the link below suggests it can be clearly identified.
No, that is the point of the conversation. I just didn't connect the dots (i.e., logic) for you. The point of watermarking is to provide some indication of authorship: Did Claude write it or did You write it. - To deal with the issues you are concerned with, you have to do a deep dive into how Anthropic is actually doing the watermarking:
Claude's watermarking method is open source. They use an algorithm called "SynthID-Text" or simply "SynthID," originally developed by Google DeepMind. It biases token selection using a keyed pseudo-random "g-value" over each candidate token based on an underlying mechanism Google calls "Tournament Sampling" computed from a secret key plus preceding context, which, according to Claude, "is exactly why the market lives in the pattern of word choices, needs many tokens to detect and washes out under paraphrasing." Google's method, in turn, is based on the "Kirchenbauer/Aaronson Sampling-Watermark Paradigm":

John Kirchenbauer, Jonas Geiping, Yuxin Wen, Jonathan Katz, Ian Miers, and Tom Goldstein.“A Watermark for Large Language Models.”Proceedings of the 40th International Conference on Machine Learning (ICML 2023), PMLR 202:17061–17084, 2023.

For some code:

"Watermarking doesn’t change the meaning or experience for the person reading it, but if you wanted to check after the fact whether the text was likely generated by Claude, the watermark allows you to do so."
You are wrong about that. It changes the words and dramatically so. After a while, you will be able to detect the difference. Various tactics surface. For example, you may begin to notice the unusual appearance of distinctly British spelled words or variants that are otherwise unusual in the US.

BritishAmerican
colourcolor
favourfavor
honourhonor
labourlabor
greygray
metremeter
realizerealize
defencedefense
travellingtraveling
cancelledcanceled
aluminiumaluminum
dialoguedialog
jewelleryjewelry
theatretheater

So, at certain times of the day or week or month, it might bias the British spelling over the American.

When you review your generated output, you WILL most likely recognize where it is using certain "unusual" words. Just follow the practice of substituting your "preferred" version. - And sabatoge the system.
"We’re implementing watermarking to comply with the EU AI Act. Anthropic, along with several other major AI model providers and around 190 total signatories, signed the EU Code of Practice on Transparency of AI-Generated Content in July 2026. This requires AI system providers to use methods of “marking” AI-generated text."

That is the BIG joke.

Me to Claude: "Yes but text watermarks are so easy to subvert with paraphrasing."

Claude: "Right — and "easy" actually undersells it, because it's not merely easy in practice, it's provably unavoidable in principle. The "Watermarks in the Sand" result says no quality-preserving text watermark can survive a paraphrasing attacker. So the EU has mandated, for text specifically, a property that a theorem says can't exist. That's a strange place for a law to stand, and the "as far as technically feasible" clause is quietly load-bearing precisely because "feasible" for robust text marking is, today, "no."

Which raises the fair question of what the mandate is even for, and I think there are two honest answers. First, it's aimed at the cooperative majority, not adversaries. Most AI-generated text isn't being laundered by someone determined to hide it — it's posted as-is by people who simply didn't disclose. The watermark labels that enormous cooperative middle, and that's a real transparency gain. Anyone who bothers to paraphrase-to-evade has, by that act, demonstrated intent — which pushes them out of the "transparency" frame and into fraud/misrepresentation frames the watermark was never meant to police anyway. Second, it functions as a regulatory ratchet: "deploy the best available technology and improve it," a forcing function for the provenance ecosystem (detection APIs, C2PA, standards) more than a guarantee of catching anyone.

There's also a wrinkle that cuts the other way and I think is underappreciated. If watermarking becomes universal among compliant providers, the obvious evasion — "paraphrase it with an AI" — backfires, because paraphrasing Claude's text through another compliant model just re-stamps it with that model's watermark. To get clean removal you need an unwatermarked paraphraser: a local, open-source model, or manual rewriting. So the mandate's practical effect is to push determined evaders toward open/self-hosted models the EU can't compel to watermark at all. The regulation is enforceable exactly against the providers who'd comply anyway, and structurally leaky toward the tools a motivated actor would actually use.

So the policy critique writes itself, and it's the asymmetry you keep circling: the mark reliably tags the honest and reliably fails on the dishonest, while the costs — quality tradeoffs, the alignment side-effects, deployment and key-management overhead, the forgeability risk — land on everyone. As a transparency signal for the cooperative case, defensible. As a control against bad actors or as forensic evidence, close to theater. And the law, by writing in "as far as technically feasible," has more or less admitted that in its own text.
Right — and "easy" actually undersells it, because it's not merely easy in practice, it's provably unavoidable in principle. The "Watermarks in the Sand" result says no quality-preserving text watermark can survive a paraphrasing attacker. So the EU has mandated, for text specifically, a property that a theorem says can't exist. That's a strange place for a law to stand, and the "as far as technically feasible" clause is quietly load-bearing precisely because "feasible" for robust text marking is, today, "no."

Which raises the fair question of what the mandate is even for, and I think there are two honest answers. First, it's aimed at the cooperative majority, not adversaries. Most AI-generated text isn't being laundered by someone determined to hide it — it's posted as-is by people who simply didn't disclose. The watermark labels that enormous cooperative middle, and that's a real transparency gain. Anyone who bothers to paraphrase-to-evade has, by that act, demonstrated intent — which pushes them out of the "transparency" frame and into fraud/misrepresentation frames the watermark was never meant to police anyway. Second, it functions as a regulatory ratchet: "deploy the best available technology and improve it," a forcing function for the provenance ecosystem (detection APIs, C2PA, standards) more than a guarantee of catching anyone."
 
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