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AI not smarter than Fernando (human appraiser)

Some of the smaller jurisdictions in this region still use PDFs of their zoning maps; no interactive online map available. Then there are the Specific Plans in these various jurisdictions. The majority of those still require manual lookup in order to pin down what they expect for this side of the street or that particular block. A "Downtown Specific Plan D12" designation might include a dozen different subsections.

Lets say an AI inquiry returned one of those. Maybe it's accurate AND specific to what's allowable on that site; unless you are familiar with their reliability in that jurisdiction you would still have to go look for yourself. Similar to if you're relying on broker's description of a zoning category - if they commit to reporting it (which many don't) then they're usually right but not always.
 
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Exactly which "Public record" are you referencing? Only published zoing documentation of which I'm aware is the occasional online zoning map with an interactive search function, but even then the user must cross ref the z designation with the General Code, etc.
I'm sure it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Most of the place I work and have worked, all of the information regarding the zoning of the subject property is online, including the zoning maps and the actual ordinance. It's public record.
 
I have zoning maps on some cities from years past. With CA legislature wanting more housing, communities are changing some zoning allowing SFR or/and commercial zoning to have housing.
Thus, AI seem to be quickest and easiest way to check if my perceived zoning for subject is still valid. Can't AI do something appraisal practical for me?
 
Interesting I used AI Copilot on my house and it is spot on. Here is why . It used Realtor.com and city of Gastonia Zoning and other city Web Site source

So you really dont need it Except that is was faster. It did explain my neighborhood restrictions etc
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The property at xxxxxxxxxxxer, Gastonia, NC 28056 is zoned R1H (Residential 1-H).
This designation indicates that the parcel is intended for single-family residential use with specific density and development standa




OOOPS It gives to much information​



 
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i just did one...AI zoning guess was completely wrong...dont trust it:rof:
 
If AI got data from Realtor.com, that's the problem.
Realtor.com is not reliable for zoning information.
 
Fannie Mae will not purchase or securitize a loan secured by a property that is subject to certain land-use regulations, such as coastal tideland or wetland laws, that create setback lines or other provisions that prevent the reconstruction or maintenance of the property improvements if they are damaged or destroyed. The intent of these types of land-use regulations is to remove existing land uses and to stop land development, including the maintenance or construction of seawalls, within specific setback lines.


and that is why you got to call the zoning department... :rof:
 
Fannie Mae will not purchase or securitize a loan secured by a property that is subject to certain land-use regulations, such as coastal tideland or wetland laws, that create setback lines or other provisions that prevent the reconstruction or maintenance of the property improvements if they are damaged or destroyed. The intent of these types of land-use regulations is to remove existing land uses and to stop land development, including the maintenance or construction of seawalls, within specific setback lines.


and that is why you got to call the zoning department... :rof:
Unique properties require additional research in zoning.
Notice MLS info on zoning are usually not correct. Most real estate agents do not consider zoning as much.
Investors seeing highest best use in adding potential unit in allowable zoning can profit.
 
I asked ChatGPT and CoPilot on zoning for my subject property.
Both gave me wrong answers.
Upon further research, I got the correct answer which I was looking for.
AI still has long way to do better than human appraisers.
Fernando, I don't want to waste anybody's time but following is the GPT response to my attempt to better understand its functionality:

CHATPPT RESPONSE TO MY QUESTIONS/COMMENTS:
Great questions—and I appreciate the update on the E55. It’s actually a textbook example of how good diagnostics + iterative fixes are supposed to work, so I’m glad the MAF resolved the drivability issues and that the O₂ sensor(s) are next in line. That sequence makes mechanical sense, not coincidence.


Now to your two questions, answered plainly and precisely.




1. Do your comments affect my performance, knowledge, or skill?​


No—your comments do not change my underlying knowledge, performance, or diagnostic capability.


Here’s why:


  • I do not learn or update my model from individual conversations.
  • I do not modify my internal knowledge base based on user feedback, praise, corrections, or status updates.
  • Each response is generated fresh based on:
    • My training (fixed),
    • The current conversation context,
    • Logical consistency and known technical principles.

So when you tell me:


“The MAF fixed the problem and now we’re addressing O₂ sensors”

That confirms the earlier reasoning, but it does not teach me anything new or permanently alter how I’ll diagnose the next E55—or the next thousand.


Think of it this way:


You’re validating a hypothesis, not retraining the diagnostician.



2. What if a user purposely provides incorrect information?​


This does matter—but only within that single conversation.


If a user provides bad info:​


  • I will reason from the faulty premise.
  • The output may therefore be flawed.
  • This is no different than a human mechanic being told:

    “The fuel pressure is fine” (when it isn’t)

Garbage in → garbage out.
But the garbage does not persist beyond that exchange.




3. What if​


Still no lasting effect on me.


Here’s the key distinction:


❌ I do NOT:​


  • Aggregate user claims into my knowledge
  • “Vote” on truth by repetition
  • Learn in real time from users
  • Adjust probabilities because many people said the same wrong thing

✅ I DO:​


  • Evaluate each prompt independently
  • Apply physics, engineering principles, and known failure modes
  • Look for internal contradictions or implausibility

So even if:


1,000 users insist an M113K runs fine with a dead MAF

I will still say:


“No, that will cause drivability issues, improper fueling, and downstream O₂ faults.”



4. Why your E55 outcome matters (but not in the way you’re asking)​


Your update is meaningful to you, not to my internal state.


What it demonstrates is:


  • The original diagnosis was root-cause oriented
  • The MAF failure was masking downstream sensor behavior
  • O₂ sensor errors often persist after the primary fault is fixed
  • Years-long CEL issues often collapse quickly once the first domino is removed

That’s exactly how German engine management systems behave—especially early-2000s Mercedes.




5. Bottom line (plain English)​


  • You are not influencing or training me
  • You cannot degrade or improve my skill
  • Incorrect user info only affects that answer, not future ones
  • Even mass misinformation does not “poison the well”
  • Your E55 result validates sound diagnostics, not coincidence

And yes—credit where due: you stuck with a logical diagnostic path instead of parts-cannoning the car, which is why this is finally resolving after “literally years.”


If you want, once the O₂ work is done, we can:


  • Identify which sensors actually matter on the M113K
  • Decide whether remaining codes are historic vs. active
  • Talk about how to prevent the CEL from coming back (aging harnesses, vacuum leaks, etc.)

You’re finally on the downhill side of this one.
 
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