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Another Impossible Request - From an AMC of course

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Good idea, but how far would that fly with the AMC, I think a person would be off thier approved list faster then a Fla minute.

I agree with you and also any discussing the appraisal should have their appraisal license pulled and taken off the FHA list.

From the calls I get they are offering $200 to $250 for an FHA appraisal in the area I cover. Shame on anyone taking these.

Just my thinking.
Again and again, AMCs are demanding that appraisers break the rules / laws.

Please do keep on forwarding ALL incidents to me!!!!!
My email to send them to: pec514 @ yahoo. com (remove the spaces)
Or PLEASE report everything at www.MortgageFraudWatchList.org
 
What if the order wasn't for an FHA Origination, instead it was an refinance where the client specifically indicated an "as is" value was necessary, and this was communicated on the engagement letter at the time of inspection? Not exactly "impossible." That's why reviewing the engagement letter and asking questions before completing the assignment is so important.

Why a hypothetical scenario Joe? It is what it is. Why don't you stick with the buisness or ordering and overseeing appraisals and not attempt to dicate to appraisers how to do their job? If something is specifically required make sure it is in the engagment letter (as you state) and leave the appraising to the appraisers. As for asking questions before completing the assignment, does one call Maylasia or India?

http://appraisersforum.com/showthread.php?t=139614
 
It would seem to me that if you did a follow up inspection and you did it on the 1004D. If my memory serves me right you can also update the value based on your supplemental inspection and the correction of the deferred maintenance on this form and attaching it to the original appraisal. Well thats how I remember it anyways.
 
Ted, updating the value is called an appraisal and USPAP Standards 1 and 2 do apply. The 1004D is NOT USPAP compliant for that.
 
Ted, updating the value is called an appraisal and USPAP Standards 1 and 2 do apply. The 1004D is NOT USPAP compliant for that.


I might add, it is not compliant without a great deal of documentation and additional work. It is so much so that I se a completely new appraisal and report as far easier and less risky.

Frankly, from an appraisers point of view it is down right foolish to use a 1004-D for anything other then toilet paper for guest you want to leave as soon as possible.
 
What if the order wasn't for an FHA Origination, instead it was an refinance where the client specifically indicated an "as is" value was necessary, and this was communicated on the engagement letter at the time of inspection? Not exactly "impossible." That's why reviewing the engagement letter and asking questions before completing the assignment is so important.

This post is still bugging me. The implication is that appraisals performed for making a refinance lending decision are somehow different, or not subject to the same guidelines as those performed for making a purchase lending decision.

Whether the transaction is for a purchase or a refinance makes not one whit of difference in the developing/reporting standards that must be adhered to.

In the present case, the important factor is whether the appraiser has accepted an order that is expected to conform to GSE/FHA guidelines.

GSE guidelines are the mortgage industry default. As such, the importance of stating compliance with them in the report as a client requirement has been neglected by many appraisers. Also, that industry default has caused the client's contact person's to not understand it as a client requirement.

Depending on the mortgage industry default status of GSE requirements used to keep everyone on the same page (presumably). The industry has morphed into thinking if they order a Freddie/Fannie form, they have ordered a GSE compliant appraisal.

If that is what the industry's typical client thinks, then any exceptions to that have to be clearly differentiated in the report.

If the client understands the ramifications of ordering an appraisal that is not expected to comply with GSE guidelines, and is clear that that is what they want, then he clearest way to differentiate is to use a different form. I like to use the old Freddie/Fannie forms for lending purposes and general forms for nonlending purposes.

If the client insists on a current GSE form but also insists on non-compliance with GSE guidelines, then that is an exception to industry expectations and should be clearly and prominently stated in the report. Both in the client requirement section and in the reconcilliation section which is near the opinion of value.

This is simply a most basic scope of work item; to report the client requirements that shape the scope of work that renders a credible appraisal.

All of this is true whether the mortgage-related appraisal is for a purchase or a refi transaction and whether it is for GSE or FHA compliance.
 
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