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Appraisal Port user agreement, now what?

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Mike Seward

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This is the response (in part) from an LIA (LSI) attorney


"........However, from the insurance viewpoint, you should still be concerned about the agreement because of the indemnification provision contained in paragraph 8. The reason you should be concerned is that, like all professional liability policies, your E&O policy does not cover claims against third parties (i.e., the policy covers claims against you because you are the insured) or liabilities assumed by contract. In the indemnity provision of this agreement, you are agreeing very broadly to pay all of AppraisalPort's losses, damages, expenses, etc. which might result from any aspect of an appraisal delivered through AppraisalPort
-- even if, the loss or damage is the result of AppraisalPort's own "sole negligence." In doing so, you are agreeing to pay potential costs and damages that are broader than can be covered by your insurance.
Indeed, as an example, you are agreeing to pay for losses not only due to your own potential mistakes, but also due to AppraisalPort's own negligence (if AppraisalPort, for example, chopped up one of your reports or deleted important information) and agreeing to pay AppraisalPort to defend against its own negligence. To the extent that such contractual obligations assumed by you in the agreement with AppraisalPort are broader than the liability you would otherwise have without the agreement, they are not covered by insurance. Thus, AppraisalPort's terms and conditions do expose you to potential liability that is not covered.
Based on our experience in reviewing other agreements of this nature affecting appraisers, the indemnity provision in the contract here is egregiously one-sided, particularly in light of the importance of AppraisalPort's proper handling of appraisal reports and data and the fact that use of AppraisalPort is forced upon you by FannieMae and other entities. .........

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Whether you choose to accept the user agreement will have to be your business judgment based on the risks and rewards of doing business through AppraisalPort. We do sympathize with you, however, for the difficult position that AppraisalPort has placed you in and we would suggest that you voice your displeasure to AppraisalPort and the lenders and institutions which require that you use AppraisalPort. We intend to pursue such efforts as well on behalf of our 33,000 insured appraisers........"


There have 100 or so posts in two threads establishing the fact that an appraiser should not sign this agreement.

Now, having said that, what do we do?

Those of you that have good clients using AP that have decided you won't sign the agreement, what do you plan to do?
 
Call your client, explain the situation to them, that your E & O could be affected by signing the agreement. Most lenders most likely will make a "business decision" and show AP the door, as the E & O is a must to them.
 
we would suggest that you voice your displeasure to AppraisalPort and the lenders and institutions which require that you use AppraisalPort. We intend to pursue such efforts as well on behalf of our 33,000 insured appraisers........"
Well it's clear from those other threads who is not going to help us. I'm pleased to see LIA is going to attempt something. As for voicing my displeasure with the lenders which require it, I'm going to start by contacting AP and dropping the lenders who don't send me anything. Wachovia for starters. The only one on my AP list that matters only sends REO work.
 
Question?

Does AppraisalPort reconfigure/destroy/omit pdf reports or just AI ready reports (which I don't do) or both. I do however complete PDF and submit pdf through AppraisalPort. I will be calling GeneralStar E&O to find out their position
 
OREP put out an article on the subject. It came in my e-mail today. Basically it says that it is a lousy deal, we will not cover anyone but you, and have a nice day. The only customer I have that is considering AP is Landsafe. I sent them an e-mail and they responded fairly quickly with the "under review" comment. But it got all the way to the guy that is negotiating with AP.

I was looking for a ruling as to when the considered a report delivered. When it gets to AP or when it gets to Landsafe. If my responsibility ends when it gets to AP, then I don't care. If I am responsible for the report until it gets to Landsafe, then I do care. If AP is the agent for Landsafe and my PDF is correctly and completely transmitted to AP, do I really care what happens to it after that?
 
OREP put out an article on the subject. It came in my e-mail today. Basically it says that it is a lousy deal, we will not cover anyone but you, and have a nice day. The only customer I have that is considering AP is Landsafe. I sent them an e-mail and they responded fairly quickly with the "under review" comment. But it got all the way to the guy that is negotiating with AP.

I was looking for a ruling as to when the considered a report delivered. When it gets to AP or when it gets to Landsafe. If my responsibility ends when it gets to AP, then I don't care. If I am responsible for the report until it gets to Landsafe, then I do care. If AP is the agent for Landsafe and my PDF is correctly and completely transmitted to AP, do I really care what happens to it after that?

Same deal LandSafe and OREP, but I still wonder if they destroy pdf or just AI Ready (which LandSafe is switching to)
 
Will Landsafe allow you to send PDF to Appraisal Port, or will they demand usage of AI Ready software ???
 
I give them PDF from Wintotal through AppraiserLink, they have not switched to AppraisalPort in PA yet. I am almost positive they were wanting AI Ready when they switch, but that may change
 
Thanks for the responses, but the appraiser posters are referring to mistakes they may make.
Paragraph 8 of the agreement says that you the appraiser will hold AP harmless for mistakes AP makes. As the E&O company says, you are agreeing to pay AP to defend itself against its own negligence.
Lobo Fan asks if he/she should care what happens to the report after it is delivered to AP. Yes, you should care because if AP or Landsafe or whomever strips critical items out of the report (after you deliver it), you are agreeing to take responsibility for there actions.

Back to the original (yet unanswered) question: is there anyone out there that has good bank clients that use AP and who has decided not to sign the agreement? What do you plan to do?
 
How about deliver in AIready form to Fannie Mae since they have a different scope of work and only deliver in pdf to all other clients on Appraisalport? If they ask why, tell them that E & O will not cover anything not secured like your pdf.
 
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