Appraiser Independence Violation?

[Have Laser-Will Travel]

Call the agent's broker and ask them what's up with this, and if they're good with practicing a restriction of trade, as you could go to the state and the local BOR about this. The agents do not get to hire or chose you.

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The selling agent asked what he should do and I suggested he call her broker.

 

[Tim The Enchanter]

hen there was a blurb about not attempting to participate in the appraisal, provide comps, point out features, etc.

i would delete this blurb. Apparently it offended them.

I would not even bother to say this kind of thing.
Unless they were already interfering. Then, maybe I want to offend them.
Or more likely, shut them up.
OK, I usually just ignore them. Just turn and say goodbye.

 

[Have Laser-Will Travel]

Despite its inappropriateness, I can see why the agent felt compelled to "step in" between you and her clients purchase/sale. No need to tell them before you have spoken to them that you don't want their participation. It comes across as hostile although I'm sure that was not your intention. In the future simply make the appointment and if they bring comps say thanks.

Think of it as getting unsolicited advice from an in-law. When they give it say uh huh, I understand, thank you, and do what you want anyway.

I find them distracting to the point that I can't complete a good inspection. Some do, some don't but, I never know who.

 

[Have Laser-Will Travel]

Despite its inappropriateness, I can see why the agent felt compelled to "step in" between you and her clients purchase/sale. No need to tell them before you have spoken to them that you don't want their participation. It comes across as hostile although I'm sure that was not your intention. In the future simply make the appointment and if they bring comps say thanks.

Think of it as getting unsolicited advice from an in-law. When they give it say uh huh, I understand, thank you, and do what you want anyway.

I find them distracting to the point that I can't complete a good inspection. Some do, some don't but, I never know who.

I think agent's response was not appropriate, but the email was also a bit peculiar...asking them for comps, at same time telling them they will not participate in the appraisal.

I do not ask agents for comps (unless badly needed). I let them provide me with comps if they volunteer, and I let them give me the comps at appointment, I don't ask them to email me comps. I don't lecture them or warn them not to participate in the appraisal. They can provide information that I may or may not consider; which information I choose to consider is up to me, not them. I only give them a verbal "stop it" if they really get out of line, and then a polite word or two is enough, even smile when I do it, they realize they are out line and are usually good sports about it...finesse them is better than fighting them.

I didn't ask for comps. I don't want comps from an agent. This is what I'm trying to avoid. I say that they can email me information as a courtesy.

 

[Have Laser-Will Travel]

Did you mean participate in the 'inspection'? Sounds catty either way.

Babysitting can be part of the job. Ignore them or record them.....get the report done....get paid....

Interruptions degrade my inspection. This I've learned from 24 years of experience. It is worth noting that people are not the same in this regard. Some people can tune it out. I'm not one of them.

 

[jay trotta]

She is refusing to allow me to inspect the property because she wants to be able to have her input on the appraisal. This comes by way of deduction since there is no other reason for her blocking me other than the notice that she would not be able to do so. I never even spoke to her.

Combining two different inputs; "comes by way of deduction" anticipation of input does not rise to, a notice asking agents not to attempt to participate in the appraisal -
how does one participate ? are you going to include them in the report as providing professional assistance ? It is Your report, you decide what goes in and what does Not.
In this day & age of "email", I still find a "phone call" is worth its weight in Gold. And if you have the need for additional input on a Sale you would not Call, but email for that answer ?
Anticipating an outcome almost never works, Reference Post#6

I hardly ever email an Agent, always try to get them on the phone and move the process along; if they bring Sales along, I always tell them I will look them over, nobody in this business is perfect and there is always the possibility something may have been missed. I have noted that some MLS data shows up differently at different times of the day (glitches ??) dunno,
Anything made & developed by a human being is subject to err; bicycles / cars /trains & plains etc., relying on a computer is as Risky as anything else.

Make the process more enjoyable for yourself, there's enough pain caused by the so-called "Readers of the Reports", who don't read. Agents are not the enemy.

 

[Have Laser-Will Travel]

The email was generic, said who I was and that the lender contacted me to do an appraisal and that I would be calling or the agent could reply to the email. Then there was a blurb about not attempting to participate in the appraisal, provide comps, point out features, etc. This apparently was enough for her to call the loan officer and say she did not want me to do the appraisal. I heard this from the buyer's agent.

i would delete this blurb. Apparently it offended them.

I would not even bother to say this kind of thing.
Unless they were already interfering. Then, maybe I want to offend them.
Or more likely, shut them up.
OK, I usually just ignore them. Just turn and say goodbye.

I realized later that what would probably be better is to ask them to wait until I've completed the inspection to present any information. However, I've tried this with homeowners too and a lot of them are so anxious to tell me things anyway; "Okay but first I have to let you know..." I've tried to appease agents and owners alike and what I always find is that when I get back to the office and start to write the report, I'm missing information. Some people can tune them out. For me, it's a big problem.

 

[Have Laser-Will Travel]

Combining two different inputs; "comes by way of deduction" anticipation of input does not rise to, a notice asking agents not to attempt to participate in the appraisal -
how does one participate ? are you going to include them in the report as providing professional assistance ? It is Your report, you decide what goes in and what does Not.
In this day & age of "email", I still find a "phone call" is worth its weight in Gold. And if you have the need for additional input on a Sale you would not Call, but email for that answer ?
Anticipating an outcome almost never works, Reference Post#6

I hardly ever email an Agent, always try to get them on the phone and move the process along; if they bring Sales along, I always tell them I will look them over, nobody in this business is perfect and there is always the possibility something may have been missed. I have noted that some MLS data shows up differently at different times of the day (glitches ??) dunno,
Anything made & developed by a human being is subject to err; bicycles / cars /trains & plains etc., relying on a computer is as Risky as anything else.

Make the process more enjoyable for yourself, there's enough pain caused by the so-called "Readers of the Reports", who don't read. Agents are not the enemy.

I can't do a good inspection when someone is interrupting me. There is a small chance that they will have some useful information for me but it is a sure thing that I will make mistakes due to their interruptions. The email is only an introduction and it says I will be calling them. My question is about whether or not this agent violated appraiser independence.

 

[Have Laser-Will Travel]

Thank you all! This is over for me. The lender is advising her that what she is doing is prohibited. I was really concerned with understanding when appraiser independence is being violated and where to turn when it is, not so much on how I approach dealings with agents. I wish I were like those of you who can tune it out but, without fail, it degrades my inspection.

 

[Deleted member 77547]

If I meet an agent who is "distracting" I will politely tell them that I'm going to do the inspection because I have a "system" and when I'm done we can discuss whatever they deem appropriate. By discussing afterwards I'll have a visual of the home and can better understand their points. Never had a complaint and they generally leave me to it. If they are anxious I go through the home with them and then when they've made their points I announce I'm going to take a another pass alone to make sure I didn't miss anything. Never had an issue.