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True....the op could throw the main offenders under the bus and claim ignorance of being a newbie and thought this was how training was done. Sure, she brought up the signature deal and questioned her supervisor's signing without inspection amoung other things. She was told "talk to the hand".

The problem is she's Certified, has 2000 hours of experience logs to contend with, and is a college graduate. On top of that, the continuing education. To feign ignorance of the situation for that long..... I just don't think she'd get away with a 16-hour
USPAP course.

Yes, she should turn these people into the state. But she can't, because it would mean her license.
All true, which is what makes it difficult for the state. Hard to take action when the players cover up for one another. But, typically something goes awry for the players in which case they all take a big hit due to aggravating factors.
 
All true, which is what makes it difficult for the state. Hard to take action when the players cover up for one another.
Particularly when the players are on the Board of Appraisers.
 
Particularly when the players are on the Board of Appraisers.
I've heard that of Boards.
California is one of the few states that does not have a board. All investigators are employees so there is no direct professional conflict.
 
As far as I know Calif. BREA is the ONLY state regulator that is established that way. All the other states use political appointees at the board member level and either perform their reviews by board members or fee them out to outside reviewers.

I don't know about all of them but my understanding was that up until the current appointment all the others were career appraisers for the state, and at least the last couple of them held USPAP Instructor certs. I actually met the last one at an Assessor's seminar a couple years back where he and I and a couple others spoke. I got an hour for "how to appraise the tough ones" where I struggled to cram 4-hrs of CE instruction into 1 hour (TBH, I didn't do as well with that as I had intended).
 
The original attachments are gone, was this a firm?
 
CA is not the only state that is set up as a self contained agency and not a board. Arizona switched from a board about a decade ago and I believe there is one or two more in the Great Lakes area or there about. In its heyday, CA had an enforcement team of 12 investigators (license required), 2 supervising investigators (license required) who have limited charging authority, and a deputy bureau chief of enforcement (license not required) and files charges on high-level actions, all of whom were fire-walled from the bureau chief (license not required) and decision maker on the action to take. The vast majority of actions are closed in less than 45 days after charges are filed and all done internally in the office. It's an efficient process.
 
Oh bummer, I apparently missed the magic on this one. Non competes are not enforceable in all states. It's countered by the concept of right to work.

Online research keywords; states where non competes are unenforceable. / Many are simply prohibited, while others have various degrees where such activity can be applicable. If you're operating as a 1099 in a free market space, good luck to them trying to enforce that, because they're going to need it.

I signed one with this scummy firm when I was trying to move away from the family business. They were so dirty, they promised me I would not have to sign one, but then tried to make me in order to get paid after two months of work. I signed the dang thing anyways, left, and competed anyways. Lol. They didn't do a damned thing because I was on the inside and was seeing how they operate for long enough. Then the firm manager had her license stripped and sanctioned by the state due to ongoing investigations I never knew about. But I knew this was not going to be the place for me. In the end I did not even claim the hours on my appraisal application and just scrounged with pick up work instead. They knew I was working elsewhere and I never heard a dang thing from them, they'd even see me at live CE classes and appraisal group meetings and such. They kept quiet because they knew... I was not like them and actually believed in honesty and ethic.

I ran across one of the puppy mill guys whom was telling me I'd do all the inspection and write up, he'd review and send back to me for revisions, then he'd sign, and I'd get like twenty five percent or something. I was like you've got to be kidding me. At the time runners of this nature were prohibited practice, but so many of them were doing it anyways. When I got my first refi after having been an appraiser for a while, this CG sent a runner over but she got a last minute phone call just before she got to the door and skedaddled off somewhere else. Then the real appraiser showed up. I did not say anything to the state though because landing a 2.5% 15 yr was too important. My principal was melting off like butter on a steak.

As far as advisement to turn everyone into the state, think twice. There is no greater objection than absence. Just go compete and be sure to stay away from those people. They'll never know. One does not need all this online presence and listing data to be a confirmed working appraiser. Literally all you need is a license, a phone, and an email address. I shut the web site presence down a decade ago and never regretted that even once. Too much hassle and I don't like individual requests. I land long term clients, roll with them until something unravels, then I pick up the phone and replace them with whom I want to work with.

Talk to lawyers and state persons on purpose? Go to government buildings by my own free will? Not in a damned million years and I don't care if a real world leprechaun is there on a real pot of gold. I'm not doing that. Life is too short. Karma will catch up with them eventually. Always operate on the good faith principal. And if people violate the good faith, simply leave and never look back.
 

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