AQB Update On Proposed Changes To Appraiser Qualifications

[J Grant]

Like realtors.

Realtors is a commission sales job, it is not a profession ( though they like to call it that ). Most are not on a salary, how hard is to qualify for to earn nothing? Of course some earn a very good living, but many barely get by. There maybe a mix of college and non college , but since e payment is only made on a sale they get hired basically for showing up.

 

[jay trotta]

As in so many other professions, it is a craft that needs to be learned from the ground up; it is the combination that adds to the understanding, the science part is a portion and the art is a portion, both are needed to provide an end result.
What I find most interesting is during my time within the industry, there was a reasoning for gaining greater education, a goal to strive for, since 08 that has been abolished. Pre 08, the funny money bandwagon was on a roll, yep the appraisals were as bad as the loans processed at the time; except a few who believed in what they were producing. That piece alone cannot be taught in High School or College, you need to have the right stuff, (IE: GH - our remaining economic life our adherence to the ETHICS RULE) and anyone can avoid that, but that's what puts the tire to the road. Education or not; a good portion of the problem (so-called shortage) Lenders would not accept a Trainee....Why ? you can't stop progress and then claim 100 reasons why it should be changed, and to avoid a part of the process (Boots On The Ground work) is a huge mistake. Training & Education go hand in glove, there is no substitute I can think of.

How would you like to have a surgeon fresh out of College with no Training, work on You ??
A carpenter build your House right out of school, no Training ?
A Banker become the CEO right out of College ? Anyone ever seen that happen ??

 

[Ken Masla]

People have asked you repeatedly what you do and you never answered.

What does this have to do with anything?

You asked me to explain appraising to you in an older thread.

I don't think I asked you this because I genuinely wanted to know your answer. It is funny how you use this as an example.

I am above other people who disagree with me on the education issue, but the fact that appraising without a degree requirement for decades has suffered so many severe problems not experienced with professions with a degree requirement speaks for itself.

You're not above anyone. Sorry to break it to you. Having a degree doesn't make you superior to another human.

 

[J Grant]

Like realtors.

Realtors is a commission sales job, it is not a profession ( though they like to call it that ). There is no salary, there are except for an office staff no "jobs" to compete for -, it's commission sales work.. There is a mix of college and non college , but since e payment is only made on a sale they get hired basically for showing up.

As in so many other professions, it is a craft that needs to be learned from the ground up; it is the combination that adds to the understanding, the science part is a portion and the art is a portion, both are needed to provide an end result.
What I find most interesting is during my time within the industry, there was a reasoning for gaining greater education, a goal to strive for, since 08 that has been abolished. Pre 08, the funny money bandwagon was on a roll, yep the appraisals were as bad as the loans processed at the time; except a few who believed in what they were producing. That piece alone cannot be taught in High School or College, you need to have the right stuff, (IE: GH - our remaining economic life our adherence to the ETHICS RULE) and anyone can avoid that, but that's what puts the tire to the road. Education or not; a good portion of the problem (so-called shortage) Lenders would not accept a Trainee....Why ? you can't stop progress and then claim 100 reasons why it should be changed, and to avoid a part of the process (Boots On The Ground work) is a huge mistake. Training & Education go hand in glove, there is no substitute I can think of.

How would you like to have a surgeon fresh out of College with no Training, work on You ??
A carpenter build your House right out of school, no Training ?
A Banker become the CEO right out of College ? Anyone ever seen that happen ??

Nobody is recommending scrapping experience and on the job training for those with a degree. The college is to enter the profession, it is not a substitute for on the job training ( at least that is not how I would want it)

 

[djd09]

 

[Ken Masla]

As in so many other professions, it is a craft that needs to be learned from the ground up; it is the combination that adds to the understanding, the science part is a portion and the art is a portion, both are needed to provide an end result.
What I find most interesting is during my time within the industry, there was a reasoning for gaining greater education, a goal to strive for, since 08 that has been abolished. Pre 08, the funny money bandwagon was on a roll, yep the appraisals were as bad as the loans processed at the time; except a few who believed in what they were producing. That piece alone cannot be taught in High School or College, you need to have the right stuff, (IE: GH - our remaining economic life our adherence to the ETHICS RULE) and anyone can avoid that, but that's what puts the tire to the road. Education or not; a good portion of the problem (so-called shortage) Lenders would not accept a Trainee....Why ? you can't stop progress and then claim 100 reasons why it should be changed, and to avoid a part of the process (Boots On The Ground work) is a huge mistake. Training & Education go hand in glove, there is no substitute I can think of.

How would you like to have a surgeon fresh out of College with no Training, work on You ??
A carpenter build your House right out of school, no Training ?
A Banker become the CEO right out of College ? Anyone ever seen that happen ??

I agree, but it think it is important to separate college from education.

I think it would be much more beneficial to a trainee to go to appraisal related courses, (AI for example), than go to college.

 

[J Grant]

I meant to write not above other people - corrected it- (my dog needed to go for a walk distracted me ) Your refusal to answer about what you( folks have asked you repeatedly) , as you allude to being an expert on computer/tech issues and appraising

I believe I am somewhat above avg on the intelligence scale but far from the smartest person in the room , or on this board. If I were really smart I would have done something else-but that's another story.

 

[Ken Masla]

I meant to write not above other people - corrected it- (my dog needed to go for a walk distracted me ) Your refusal to answer about what you( folks have asked you repeatedly) , as you allude to being an expert on computer/tech issues and appraising

Again, what is the point of this statement? It is still an incomplete, incoherent sentence.

I've never alluded to being an expert on anything. I just brought certain topics up. You've unreasonably labeled me something I am not. (poor reasoning skills).

I believe I am somewhat above avg on the intelligence scale but far from the smartest person in the room , or on this board. If I were really smart I would have done something else-but that's another story.

The fake humility is dripping out of my monitor.....

You've called someone stupid for not knowing the difference between the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean. You called him stupid because you feel like you are superior to him.

 

[djd09]

The fake humility is dripping out of my monitor.....

You've called someone stupid for not knowing the difference between the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean. You called him stupid because you feel like you are superior to him.

You are a quick learner. What do you think about Tres?

 

[Evincere]

Rightly or wrongly, there is a lot of truth to this statement. .

Which is it. Rightly or wrongly ...true.