AQB Update On Proposed Changes To Appraiser Qualifications

[George Hatch]

I favor the idea of planting a 100-hr Recap/Practicum requirement in the middle of the 2000 hour experience requirement. At that point they have enough IRL experience with the mechanics and are in a little better position to understand the application of the abstracts when they're pointed out. Then they have another 1000 hours of experience in which to better internalize the material before we cut them loose.

I can't tell you how many times I had CE course participants approach me and tell me that they understood the material much better as a result of my use of the common experience to illustrate the point. The thing is, nobody has the common experience to work with until they accumulate some of it IRL.

The big difference between teaching a Appraising 101 course to the raw recruits vs teaching a CE course to experienced appraisers is ....their experience. It's not the instructor or the actual material that's changed, its the course participant's frame of reference that's evolved.

To the trainee it's all abstracts except for the mechanics of measuring/calculating bldg area or applying adjustments. The "why" is secondary to the "what" to them. You have a better shot at explaining the "why" to them after they've seen the "what" in action. And it's the understanding of the "why" that's portable to all the new situations we are constantly running into over the course of our careers.

 

[djd09]

Apparently the AQB are good dividers too. If they could change the rules every month , they probably would.

Those dodo birds didn't understand when they required a college degree, that no person in their right mind would do a two year internship, 4 year college degree, 200 appraisal classroom hours, and maybe pass the test.

Now they will change them again and why should anyone think they know what they are doing.

 

[George Hatch]

Not to change the subject but i think there should be votes on all appraisal related issues. No more dictators.

The process at TAF solicits input from basically everyone. They publish every response they get back, except perhaps for responses that are clearly offensive and the like. In their process they seek out the explanations that make the most sense to them. It's specifically not an election or a beauty contests so the volume of support for a particular idea won't carry it; the idea itself has to be consistent with the underlying concepts and principles.

A lot of people don't know this but the current version of the PREAMBLE in USPAP is the direct result of an individual appraiser sending in an unsolicited revision that resonated with the ASB enough for them to adopt it.

If you submit a response in good faith they'll pass it around to each other, read it and include any salient points therein as part of their standard process; then they'll publish it along with all the other responses they received.

 

[djd09]

Vote. That is a democracy. What is currently installed is pick your buddy, listen to the big bucks, and do what they say board.

 

[DWiley]

Vote. That is a democracy. What is currently installed is pick your buddy, listen to the big bucks, and do what they say board.

It is already based on votes - votes by the AQB and ASB. There is no "dictatorship" The Board chairs don't even get to vote, except to make or break a tie.

 

[Evincere]

I agree that the weak/corrupt supervisors are and always have been Problem #1. Trainee qualifications cannot touch that problem.

Right. Thus far the debate has been about focusing on the 4 yr degree that's going to qualify the incoming (trainee) for cert candidacy yet they seem to be forgetting they still need a mentor and that their degree not suddenly going to suddenly qualify the supervisor as competent enough to train them.

 

[bnmappraisal]

The big difference between teaching a Appraising 101 course to the raw recruits vs teaching a CE course to experienced appraisers is ....their experience

I'm definitely a believer in "book smart" vs "street smart"

And I agree with George above. It's one thing to learn about "functional obs" and "HBU" and "ADU's" and ... it's another to actually work on a real life version of it! We all know the text book examples of "2 houses exactly alike except one has a 2 car garage and the other a 1 car garage. The 2 car garage sold ....." and thus have a market adjustment for 1 vs 2 car. IRL, though, we know that's hardly ever the case! Experience is the only way to teach/learn that, IMO. College degree or not

 

[djd09]

Nobody counts my vote. Or everyone here. It is just an illusion that we matter. We don't.

 

[Evincere]

You realize the large shop model is exactly what Forsythe does, right?

He gets it. He knows it. He advocates for even BIGGER shops/offices because the "independent" model isn't working.

https://appraisersforum.com/forums/threads/corel-gic-to-buy-mercury-network.217700/page-2

 

[Joe Flacco]

I don't think Forsythe is local offices with everybody working in house. They are basically like the corelogic staff appraiser model. Very large local office is a much better model than this independent model that we have today.