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Are Churches Commercial Influences?

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For the hours spent hand wringing over a situation that rarely occurs, or any perceived fair housing violation, wouldn't it just have made more sense to spend 2 minutes allaying the clients fears with a comment: "subject adjoins (name of church or facility) a legal use for this residential district and a seemingly innocuous locational influence."?

The AF has an awful lot of pointless risk analysis.
 
...................wouldn't it just have made more sense to spend 2 minutes allaying the clients fears with a comment: "subject adjoins (name of church or facility) a legal use for this residential district and a seemingly innocuous locational influence."?......

OMG you can't do that, it isn't politically correct and someone, I don't know who, might sue you for putting facts in an appraisal. Facts...no can do.
 
Church parking lots are some of the best places for children to skate board, ride bikes, play roller hockey - no traffic, high visibility, etc. etc.

I took a call last week about the adverse influence of a cemetery on an adjacent residential property - I've never seen such an influence: occupants of cemeteries are generally pretty quiet, the have good lawn maintenance, and don't generate a lot of traffic.

Now we can have the "places of worship" argument.

G'mar Hatimah Tovah, ya'll.

My house backs to a cemetery. Best neighbors I have ever had!
 
Art,

with all do respect, there are many things which are fact but have no place in an appraisal report. Do I really need to point that out?

Secondly, I never said anything of offending passers by. Why would you deliberately make up such a false statement?

And last, I do not need to identify a particular religion in order to disclose an adverse effect from a neighboring property.

Would you care to give this another try?


Careful, you might get sued for assuming its has an adverse effect....:shrug:
 
For the hours spent hand wringing over a situation that rarely occurs, or any perceived fair housing violation, wouldn't it just have made more sense to spend 2 minutes allaying the clients fears with a comment: "subject adjoins (name of church or facility) a legal use for this residential district and a seemingly innocuous locational influence."?

The AF has an awful lot of pointless risk analysis.


THANK YOU CAL! (and THANK YOU, Dear JESUS! Uhhhh Ohhhh.......can I say JESUS?)
Frankly, I am really enjoying this testy little thread here immensely. I can't remember so many different panties being in a wad at one time in a while.
Jeeeeez. (Ooopps! I did it again! Jeeeeez is short for JESUS.....kind of a 'nickname....heheheh) Talk about beating a dead horse until there is nothing left of the corpse........
 
Cemeteries are very popular--people are dying to get into them.

Pete,

have you ever noticed how children pine for attention while the adults in the room are having a conversation that doesn't interest the children?
 
Pete,

have you ever noticed how children pine for attention while the adults in the room are having a conversation that doesn't interest the children?

No I haven't but please do tell!

Have you noticed so how some appraisers have a tenuous understanding of USPAP and other issues yet they continue to speak out on them anyway?
 
My son was in a Navy school a few years back in which the instructors teased, hazed and beat the students relentlessly. We were out to visit him once and while there heard the story of how he was standing in a parking lot talking to some friends (with his hands in his pockets), and an instructor dressed him down and made him roll around in a nearby mud puddle (for having his hands in his pockets).

Those that couldn't handled it quit, but those that could take the pressure, deal with he rough scrutiny moved on to better careers.

It's not quite that bad on AF but for goodness sake, if one can't handle the rough intellectual treatment regarding any variety of topics here, how does one handle them in the real world?
 
No I haven't but please do tell!

Have you noticed so how some appraisers have a tenuous understanding of USPAP and other issues yet they continue to speak out on them anyway?

Yes,

just the other day I was having a conversation with an economist about the usual, the fed, monetary policy, banking, currency exchange, gold prices, you know things you would have no interest in.

anyway, his six year old continued to tug and whine and distract. No matter how many times the six year old was smacked and told not now, he persisted.

He didn't quit until the conversation was over.

Perhaps you never noticed because you've never had an interesting conversation in your life.

Now lets hear your story, maybe today will be your day.
 
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