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Are you adjusting your comps for AGE?

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residentialguy

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With effective age not being able to be reported, are any of you adjusting for age or are you sticking to the Condition adjustment?

I'm starting to lean in this direction with the UAD. Unless there is a specific market reaction to the Age...ie, one lone house built in 1956 in a neighborhood of 21st century homes, I'm thinking to leave well enough alone.

How about you guys? :shrug:
 
I don't adjust $4$ age for similar era/age homes, such as a 20 year old house and a 17 year old house (I did not before UAD, either). As you noted , it is often seen in the market that buyers pay more after age is enough of a factor to affect condition or appeal ...such as a 20 year old house and an 8 year old house.
 
Why not alternate weeks doing it one way this week and the other way next week just to screw with their data mining.:)
 
Generally, I stay with the condition adjustment. I put in a statement saying that no age adjustments were used as a comp's higher or lower effective age was adjusted for under condition.
 
Why not alternate weeks doing it one way this week and the other way next week just to screw with their data mining.:)

Excellent idea however I do not adjust for age. My area has more market reaction to quality and condition.
 
A couple hundred bucks a year for "wear & tear" if it's 5-50 years difference, not adj if its less than 5 +/- years. (if it's over a 50 year differenece it's not a comp IMHO) They all have to be listed in the same condition in MLS and I have to see interior pix to justify doing it at all.
If I were the buyer I'd want a house that is built to current codes and efficancies before a 20 year old.
 
Once again; All this talk of mechanical and fixed approaches is all wrong.

You apply the adjustments according to the scenario.

If the comps carry higher degrees of variance for age weathering or regentrification, you can support a conservative age and condition adjustment at the same time. Helps populate the grid and provide balanced results that take into account all potential factors of buyer consideration.

If condition is uniform, age is still applied nominally to recognize there is some difference of note.

If condition is absurdly varied for damage or rare market examples, sometimes the emphasis on cost to cure breakdown, and quality of condition is what drives the market reactions and age considerations are essentially nill because they're swallowed up in the greater consideration of extensive repair. Adding A/EA analysis over damage can create unnecessary valuation analysis and potentially confusing approaches because you don't want to double dip the same market adjustment or run a backwards time adjustment against the age current, based on condition alone. Two put that simply, it's best to perform two values. One is A/EA (similar to A), representing dated and damaged. The second is A/EA (EA always current and improved), representing regentrified examples. When you try to apply sensible A/(&)EA adjustments for damaged vs new, you're going to run into complex double dipping considerations when you also consider costs to cure and condition influence adjustments.

When one considers a purchase of newer homes, of similar character, age can be a factor to focus on, because there is not much else to focus on in newer, uniform housing. Buyers seek out those focus factors to pinpoint pricing approaches a little more confidently.

When one considers a purchase of a damaged home, age plays a reduced or nill consideration compared to the as repaired and as damaged market, so there are two analysis approaches necessary there. Typically, a statement that age is given nominal consideration due to the steep emphasis on condition is acceptable. You tie it all nice together by providing as is value and as repaired to a defined market standard value. That variance is the base condition adjustment as prescribed by market examples. That variance is the investor margin where investors see if there is 20% or so leeway there for costs to cure set against repaired market value.

When you're doing an REO, you reverse the process and provide recommend listing 'values' with detailed breakdown of cost to cure, and to consider investor incentive as a cost to market, additional cost to cure, or deduction against value, if the home demands a general contractor scale effort to prevent it from become a scrape in the near future. The market does not work by itself, it takes participants. Age does not stand alone. Age hangs it's hat on condition. Condition hangs it's hat on time from initial build, set against, commonality of regentrification in the market ie market standards.
 
Most of this advice is expressed in the real world, through lurkers surfing the forum, servicing AMC clients.

They could never keep up. Never. That's why 90% or more of the active AF users are too chicken little to post anything. Poor saps, have no voice of their own.
 
(if it's over a 50 year differenece it's not a comp IMHO)

Actually the one I'm working on there is a 100 year difference in a couple ages of the home. It's 80 farm with a 135 year old home on it... most value in the land.
 
Generally, I stay with the condition adjustment. I put in a statement saying that no age adjustments were used as a comp's higher or lower effective age was adjusted for under condition.

Ditto.

Look at it this way, how many buyers ever even ask the age of a property?

Houses are not cars and most buyers care a LOT more about condition differences when comparing houses especially, if in the same neighborhood and within a few years of each other.
 
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