Assessor says recent appraisal has no bearing

[CANative]

Nonsense. I'm not talking about THE Assessor. I'm talking about the appraisers who work for the various assessor offices.

http://www.in.gov/dlgf/7533.htm

 

[TRESinc]

neither county i work in employ licensed/certified appraisers. they used to many, many years ago but not any more.

 

[CANative]

neither county i work in employ licensed/certified appraisers. they used to many, many years ago but not any more.

Don't they hold a different type of state certification - one for ad valorem or assessment?

 

[TRESinc]

couldn't tell you to be perfectly honest but i don't think so. i know last year when the reassessment happened they farmed out the books of parcels to the lowest bidder, no certs, license or any other designation needed.

i do recall talking to the (retired) guy who was in charge a few years ago (i did his house on a sale) and he was the one that told me they no longer use appraisers in the auditor or assessor's office. i was quite shocked when i heard it too.

 

[CANative]

The Ohio tax code is as complex as any other and the requirements to properly value real property in order to collect revenues but not be unfair to the public would seem to require people very knowledgeable in real estate appraisal.

I refuse to believe that the various counties in any state employ government oafs to just make up numbers.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/5713

 

[residentialguy]

the assessor says value is based on mil rate calculations not market values. the client has had the conversations with assessor, I have not..but have had the same discussion in previous years with same county. one local county accepts our CMA even, to dispute value..but not this particular county. I do not understand how they cannot use a current appraisal as part of the calculations. there are very few comparables in this area to use..appraiser did a great job

I'm a certified MN assessor, although currently working as a res appraiser.

I don't know why they got into mil rate as it is still based upon market value. The problem as to why a current appraisal is not valid is because the taxes are not based upon current value...current taxes are based up market value of about 1 1/2 years ago.

What county is this?

 

[Mark K]

Nonsense. I'm not talking about THE Assessor. I'm talking about the appraisers who work for the various assessor offices.

http://www.in.gov/dlgf/7533.htm

I repeat, there are no licensed, professional appraisers working in this county or the in the Assessor's office in most counties.

There is a big difference between the "Assessor-appraisers" (they like to call themselves appraisers) and licensed appraisers.

They are assessors; they take CE to learn how to follow cost books with depreciation schedules; apply neighborhood "market factors", attempt to categorize real estate in various classes. They contribute value to homes based on its age, the number of plumbing fixtures, the s.f. of heated/AC area, the age of mini-barns, etc. Did you know that every plumbing fixture adds $500 to the value of every house?

And then if they don't like the number, they change it, at their will, to a "value in use".

They are not appraisers; they are little more than glorified data entry clerks.

If any number generated by them approximates market value it is purely coincidental.

It is also common for the utterly unqualified politician that gets elected to Assessor to replace the office staff with friends, family, and political contributors. Then they get sent to Assessor school on the taxpayers dime.

Its a patronage system. If your office is different, you should be very happy.

 

[residentialguy]

Many counties here don't require an appraiser license. The larger density counties do, though.

Here is Dakota County... a county just south of Minneapolis/St Paul

Minimum Qualifications:
· Two years of post-secondary education or training
AND
· Three years' experience in appraisal and/or assessment of real and personal property.
OR
· An equivalent combination of education and experience to total 5 years.
AND
· Licensed Certified Minnesota Assessor (CMA) with Income Property Appraisal endorsement by MN Board of Assessors or Licensed Certified General
Appraiser by the MN Department of Commerce AND
· ValidDriver's License
· Must be able to achieve AMA (Accredited Minnesota Assessor) certification by July 1, 2019

 

[Jo Ann Meyer Stratton]

Each state has their own laws and requirements. In Arizona the county assessor is an elected office without any specific requirements. However the field appraiser that actually goes out and measures the property, researches all the information and then established the full cash value, etc is required to be a certified appraiser in ad valoreum assessment. The law went into effect in 1980 and I am #101, I think the numbers are in the 10,000 or more by now. A new employee has to become certified within six months or lose their job. After I went through the training to become certified, I decided with a "little" more effort I would worked toward a designation. Earned the RES (Residential Evaluation Specialist in 1982) #98 for the organization and the 10th woman in the world to do so. The International Association of Assessing Officers (IAAO) is world wide. The same month I earned the designation I transferred over to fee appraiser so about 15 years later I retired the designation. Over the past ten years there have been three Certified General (fee appraisers) that have become elected county assessors. Having that influence and information amongst the 15 assessors state wide has had some good effect. The former beauty operator type assessors have griped, groaned and complained about some of the suggestions the professional fee appraisers proposed but I think they are gradually being pulled into the modern world.