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AVMs and UAD

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lefty2cox

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I’m sure this is not a new idea but since I haven’t seen it posted, I will post.
The UAD is the next step in the elimination of appraisals for FNMA mortgages. Lender servicing companies are already talking about the coming of their condition adjusted modeling. The UAD presents the subject property data in a format which is easily populated into a database of property with specific condition and quality rating.
Most appraisers, if they took the time to read the agreements they sign when entering into a contractual relationship with management companies, have given those companies intellectual rights to their work. Management companies now, with UAD, have the relevant data needed to enhance their automated products. If they don’t offer an AVM, they can sell the data to companies that do. Why do you think there are some AMCs who do not charge a fee? They are not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts.
AVM’s are already and incredibly powerful tool in estimating value. The missing piece of the puzzle has always been the quality of the data feeding the model. The UAD addresses this quality of data issue.
And don’t think for a second that FNMA, Freddie and the Federal Housing Finance Agency would love to see this.
FNMA states on their site that, at present, they do not believe AVMs have evolved sufficiently to fully replace traditional appraisals. https://www.efanniemae.com/sf/guides/ssg/relatedsellinginfo/avms/
If their intensions are not obvious to you in that statement, then don’t respond to me… please, I beg of you.
In the future, for the majority of single family, residential mortgages, your scope of work may look something like this:
Inspect the subject property from the exterior to determine if it looks the same as it did when the information about it was raped from an appraisal 5 years ago, including its quality, kitchen and bath modernization and condition rating. Your client may even provide you with photos of the property taken on the effective date to help with this. Then you will check the building jacket on the file to see if there have been any permits issued. You will then submit your findings on a form similar to a 2075. However, you will not be providing a value opinion. You may get paid $50, if you’re lucky. If the subject property has substantially changed, you may then be asked to perform an appraisal. If not, the detailed subject property information they already have will be fed into AVM for an incredibly credible value. Think I’m full of it? Ever done a comp check?
Welcome to the evolution of the AVM. The UAD is Skynet, I’m not sure if I am John Connor…but it IS judgment day and if you are reading this, you ARE the resistance.
You MUST dump any management company or client who has, within their agreement with you, language requiring that you relinquish intellectual property rights to your work… for starters. And before anyone tells me that it’s easy for me to say, don’t. I’m suffering as well. I’ve chosen to not work with any management companies, and it has cost me dearly in the short term.
Secondly…find your own secondly.
I, again, would like to apologize if I’ve been redundant regarding the topic. But I haven’t seen it. I do not have any problem with any company who exhibits the conscious of mind to take advantage of a business opportunity to provide a supply for a specific market demand, even if that supply directly competes with me. I will not, however, provide them with their wares for free or let them steel it from me.
Hell, I’ve never had a problem with management companies. They’ve just filled a need of the marketplace. If appraisal companies were fulfilling the need then lenders would not have turned to them. And remember; AMCs have been gaining strength in the marketplace before the HVCC.
 
It appears certification #21 ....
already states our Reports can be handed off to data collection Agencies.....since what? 2005?
 
This is true; however, I think ABC Family Savings Bank is in the business of selling money, not appraisal report data... and if someone wanted to read every report and manually enter the most important information like location, quality and condition into a database, more power to them. The UAD encodes it for them.

But you just made a "secondly". Good work Kim. Don't do business with any management companies who want you to name them, in addition to the client / lender, as the client.
 
Amazes me that so many appraisers think of themselves as contributing little more than the data they work with. Is not your educated analysis of that data of any worth?

AVMs have their role in the industry and that won't change--the new UAD will not change that despite what many believe.
 
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You are correct Pete, your educated analysis of the data is what's important. It's what you offer as your service and it's valuable. But the only reason it's valuable is that right now, a computer can't quantify certain factors important to value. If it could, it would smoke your arse. And the UAD is a huge step in quantification of property data. Remember, appraisal is a science, not an art. Look, every part of an appraisal report can be reduced to 1's and 0's, this is a fact. The problem in the past was that there has been no efficient way of populating a database with this information. One would have to read about the condition, read about how old the kitchen looked or whether it had a counter of granite or comparable material. The person would then have to manually enter information into a database if so desired. But if the appraiser reports their opinions and conclusions about the subject property as 1's and 0's, well, do I have to go on?

And Pete...I think you're misleading readers by saying that the UAD will not change the AVM's roll in the industry. How much computer programming back round do you have?
 
You are correct Pete, your educated analysis of the data is what's important. It's what you offer as your service and it's valuable. But the only reason it's valuable is that right now, a computer can't quantify certain factors important to value. If it could, it would smoke your arse. And the UAD is a huge step in quantification of property data. Remember, appraisal is a science, not an art. Look, every part of an appraisal report can be reduced to 1's and 0's, this is a fact. The problem in the past was that there has been no efficient way of populating a database with this information. One would have to read about the condition, read about how old the kitchen looked or whether it had a counter of granite or comparable material. The person would then have to manually enter information into a database if so desired. But if the appraiser reports their opinions and conclusions about the subject property as 1's and 0's, well, do I have to go on?

And Pete...I think you're misleading readers by saying that the UAD will not change the AVM's roll in the industry. How much computer programming back round do you have?

I have a limited computer "back round"--same could be said for my body.

If you think appraisal is solely a science, there is nothing I can say that would change your opinion on the future of residential appraising. Computers have their place and have transformed the industry--you might think that they can replace you but I beg to differ. I offer my clients much more than a computer ever will
 
Talk to me when you get more computer "back round". Until then, maybe you can limit your comments on the abilities of an AVM or the potential market share it may lay claim to with adequate propagation.

And I'm sure your local board will be interested in what type of "art" you're applying in your appraisal analysis.
 
Talk to me when you get more computer "back round". Until then, maybe you can limit your comments on the abilities of an AVM or the potential market share it may lay claim to with adequate propagation.

And I'm sure your local board will be interested in what type of "art" you're applying in your appraisal analysis.

And you can get back to me when you have a clue about appraising! I'm fine with any and all boards--I can assure you they are more likely in agreement with me than with you.
 
That's your response? Get a clue about appraising? Good one Pete. But what does appraising have to do with algorithms and database analysis? What makes you think that you can process relevant and salient property features better than a computer? Maybe you need a tour of the Google compound. And like any board would have any opinion on the topic of AVM's or the future of the industry for that matter.

I don't get it Pete...my point in my original post was to not grant property rights to appraisal management companies now that the tools available give them unprecedented ability to process and analyze data. Are you making the counterpoint?
 
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