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AVM's-forcasted data

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Yeaterday a lender sent me AVM data to challenge the value of a house I appraised last month. The subject property is a 40 year old ranch located on a country road, all of my comparables are 30 to 45 year old ranches located on country roads. The AVM sentme five sales of newer(under five years) ranch style houses in two new suburban subdivisions located near the NJ turnpike. I put them in the circular file, I guess I put that mortgage company's account in the circular file too.
 
Anybody interested in a separate forum for reports on AVMs that we get to see and can prove are very wrong?????

It would turn into a very good document to show legislators, etc., exactly what we are talking about.

I've just received my first one but haven't had a chance to really look at it yet. That will be later tonight.
 
If the programmers or others involved in the AVM's are falsifying data and not following acceptable appraisal practices, it seems like they might be open to prosecution under the RICO statutes.

They are nationwide organizations and may be deliberately defrauding borrowers.
 
The weathermen in our are have been "forcasting" rain for approximately 3 weeks, haven't seen a drop yet.

"Forcasting" is neither a science or good indicator of anything - in most instances it becomes a cloud, that when you squeeeeze it - farts, but no water 8O AVM's may start "stinkin" the place up soon :oops:

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Clearly, surely, there have to be some good examples out there of AVM-"appraised" loans on properties which have floated belly-up by now and are starting to stink up some investors' portfolio somewhere ! ......It may have gone something like this......(Smithers, V.P. of Big Bank Financial Corp.) "So, I hear we have run into a major snag with that Wilson file." (Jones, lowly loan officer trying to do good ) "Yes, Mr. Smithers, it seems Mr. Wilson lost his job at the software engineering company on St. Patrick's Day, he's been drinking ever since, and has stopped paying us on that $500,000 mortgage we gave him in January. (Smithers) "Well, I'm sure it's a nice house, so let's start foreclosure proceedings and sell the place !" (Jones) "Well, you see, we have since learned that it is not so nice, and three local realtors have proposed listing prices for the place between $350K and $375K, max". (Smithers) "Well, maybe I should just "max" that appraiser to the moon, yeah, that's what I'll do, contact our corporate attorney. I'll sue that guy right back to Skid Row." (Jones) "There's another snag, Mr. Smithers, as we did not use an appraiser. Nobody went out and actually looked at the house, either inside or out. You see, we thought we'd save the corporation some money and order one of these new AVM things". (Smithers) "Shall I guess it cost us $345, instead of the usually $350 for a full appraisal inspection and report !" (Jones) "No Sir, we only had to spend $25 and ....you should see it.....nicely printed out in a small binder with clear plastic sleeves to hold the two pages which tell us what the house is worth.....I mean, what we all were hoping it was worth....Oh, Mr. Smithers....you're not mad at me are you ?....I'm still going to get that raise you promised, right ?" (Smithers) "Yeah, you'll still get that raise, don't worry, we'll find a way to get the American taxpayers to cover that one for us.---------A day in the life of Smithers and Jones.
 
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