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BREA and Appraisal Foundation didn't get Trumps message....

Just like I’m sure you didn’t know any attorneys who were willing to take the case against AMC’s predatory behavior towards consumers and appraisers. Yet it happened.:)
But those are not constitutional cases there Civil and plaintiffs claiming monetary damages. Those kind of cases are common and 90% settled without even going to trial.

The attorneys often are the only people who see any money. But FIRREA ? If that's unconstitutional then so are the agency's...GSEs...AMC and everything in the lending world. Hell the Fannie forms may be illegal...lol
 
But those are not constitutional cases there Civil and plaintiffs claiming monetary damages. Those kind of cases are common and 90% settled without even going to trial.

The attorneys often are the only people who see any money. But FIRREA ? If that's unconstitutional then so are the agency's...GSEs...AMC and everything in the lending world. Hell the Fannie forms may be illegal...lol

Have you read the Chevron doctrine decision? :giggle:
 
... Regardless of the label on the cover or the authors of any changes, the underlying concepts and principles will remain the same, even if a few details in the housekeeping are added or removed. As long as those concepts and principles don't change then whatever the label on the manual says is immaterial and of no effect on the way appraisals are performed by the professionals who are working in good faith.

Oh, I'd say the so-called "principles" are OVERLY SIMPLISTIC common sense. That is all.

Or, in other words, you can follow USPAP and create a mess. Two independent appraisers can appraise the same property, per USPAP, and wind up with a 20% or greater difference in value.

That's largely because the math embedded in USPAP is barely existent.

And that is just the tip of the Iceberg.

USPAP will be largely replaced in the end, it's principles largely unenforceable and subject to bias. As the Appraisal Institute is forever saying: "Appraisals are an opinion." If only they really understood, ever understood, what they were saying. Double-talk that only genuine idiots are capable of doing with a straight face that almost convinces you they know what they are talking about, even if it doesn't make sense. Gobbledygook circular reasoning like statements about "Value is what something is worth." And so on.

I have never come across any appraisers that had a good definition of value, market value and so on. Because, actually, to really understand these things, you need a very good understanding of the fundamentals of statistics. And that is definitely not the case.

- And actually a lot of appraisers could get a sufficient understanding of statistics and programming, if they really were motivated to learn and do the work to acquire a working understanding of the important principles.
 
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USPAP is Unconstitutional?​

by Jonathan Miller · Published February 8, 2019 · Updated January 2, 2025

Seemingly doubling down on damaging their reputations, they filed a lawsuit against the appraisal board and seem to be saying that USPAP is unconstitutional because The Appraisal Foundation is a private organization. This has ramifications for many reasons including:


all legislative powers shall be vested in congress... :ROFLMAO:
 
these nut jobs think writing the word 'church' is illegal... :ROFLMAO:
 
Have you read the Chevron doctrine decision? :giggle:
You keep bringing that up as if there isn't 30 years of legal precedent which don't support the them that USPAP is "ambiguous" WRT the core concepts of the ETHICS RULE and the COMPETENCY RULE.

Tell an untruth in an appraisal report and you are subject to getting disciplined for it. There's nothing ambiguous about that. And every time I ask what you think people don't understand you duck the question. Which is a good decision on your part because you know that allegation is untrue. That's what makes this a bad faith argument.
 
"The Legislative cannot transfer the Power of Making Laws to any other hands. For it being but a delegated Power from the People, they, who have it, cannot pass it over to others…And when the people have said, We will submit to rules, and be govern’d by Laws made by such Men, and in such Forms, no Body else can say other Men shall make Laws for them; nor can the people be bound by any Laws but such as are Enacted by those, whom they have Chosen, and Authorised to make Laws for them. The power of the Legislative being derived from the People by a positive voluntary Grant and Institution, can be no other, than what the positive Grant conveyed, which being only to make Laws, and not to make Legislators, the Legislative can have no power to transfer their Authority of making laws, and place it in other hands." j. locke

congress can make laws not legislavors... :rof:
 
I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV however, IMO USPAP is not unconstitutional. It's a standard for appraisers that has been adopted by states. In my state, it is law. Duly passed by the state legislature.
 
the best part is congress delegates their legislative authority to TAF...TAF delegates it to the unethical stakeholders...and the unethical stakeholders delegate it to ansi :rof: :rof: :rof:
 
I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV however, IMO USPAP is not unconstitutional. It's a standard for appraisers that has been adopted by states. In my state, it is law. Duly passed by the state legislature.
Nooo. USPAP was forced upon lenders by New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo. It has never been passed by any state legislature.
Unknown at that time, Cuomo was on the board of an AMC, and you wonder how AMC's got total control. Political cronyism.
I hope Cuomo has a nice cool place in hell.
 
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