Broker Price Opinions in Nevada

[xmtraterbcra]

If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory... ...It simply means that if you are telling the truth, your story will not change based on questioning,...

Really? Cool logic. Speaks for itself.

Bert Craytor, SRA

 

[Don Clark]

Really? Cool logic. Speaks for itself.

Bert Craytor, SRA

It does unless you lack the intelect to understand a very simple statement

 

[Fred]

Gee Steve, you just gave a complex to over 10,000 appraisers who post or lurk here.

The only thing I "learned" about regression on the forum is why it doesn't work. Problem is, I already know it does. But Bert knows a lot more math than I do, and he knows more about using software as a shortcut in various types of quantitative thinking.

BTW, I like your memory statement, too.

 

[Fred]

Thats great because it simply means we will all learn an awful lot if we keep reading our friend Steven's post.

Big win for us, big waste of time for him!

It's not cash, but there is a reward. It comes in the form of the occaisional private message where someone has an epiphemous moment.

 

[Fred]

So, according to your motto if you have a good memory, then you can't be telling the truth.

That's not a valid inference.

 

[Riick]

I just sent a complaint letter to the Attorney General of Pennsylvania about Brokers doing BPOs, and the AMCs that hire them, and lead them down the path to law-breaking.
The Attny General is now a member of the State Appraisal Board (Thank You, Mr. Rendell -Governor)

Doing a BPO is illegal in PA unless done in contemplation of obtaining a listing For Sale .
PA also requires an appraisal before the re-sale of a foreclosure
-- BPOs are NOT appraisals, since only g_d can make a tree and only an appraiser can make an appraisal, at least in PA.

Let's see what happens to my complaint - direct to the round file, or acted upon.

 

[xmtraterbcra]

That's not a valid inference.

Tut, tut. But it is the logical inference. You can use simple set theory.

Really, the statement "If you have a good memory, you can't be telling the truth" in the context of coming from a judge, means that the judge is making a hard assumption that everyone is lying in court and the participants in the court proceeding are going to have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the judge is wrong. Or, in other words, if the judge has to make any assumptions as to the veracity of statements by witnesses, it is going to be that they are all lies. Or in other words, the judge is looking for substantiating evidence beyond hearsay testimony.

In the context of this coming from an appraiser it could have the above meaning, EXCEPT that appraisers are not in any kind of position to make such an assumption. We have to go after best evidence - and often that is a statement from a real estate broker, home owner, planning official or someone else involved in the subject transaction. We wouldn't get very far if we assumed that everything people said were lies or untruths.

Therefore the most likely meaning is that, that Skippy would use ... everybody lies so it's not such a bad thing. - And that's pretty pathetic for an appraiser's motto. I'd have to say that I don't think that's what was meant.

Bert Craytor, SRA

 

[Don Clark]

Tut, tut. But it is the logical inference. You can use simple set theory.

Really, the statement "If you have a good memory, you can't be telling th trurth".


Bert Craytor, SRA

Add lack of reading skills to your resume.

The quote is:

If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory....Judge Judy.

 

[Riick]

Skippy uses "The Big Lie" technique.

Per Hitler's Mein Kampf
-- A lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

 

[xmtraterbcra]

Add lack of reading skills to your resume.

The quote is:

If you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory....Judge Judy.

The problem here is that you certainly do have to have a good memory to tell the truth as an appraiser ... truth comes from memory. The quote from Judge Judy in this slightly different form, again makes sense in that particular context, but not for appraisers. A truthful answer to a SIMPLE question probably doesn't require a good memory, whereas for a concocted lie to hold up, would generally require a good memory of associated facts. Either way, "have to have" or "have", the quote makes sense only in the context it was intended for - but not for appraisal.

This fact should be taken to heart when appraisers get cross-examined in court on depositions they have made or appraisals they have done. If an appraiser doesn't have a good memory, then he would be best advised to simply say "I don't remember." Either way, he won't last long as an Expert Witness. Attorneys are often very aggressive in trying to trip appraisers on contradictions that result from insufficient memory.

In other words, I had to read your quote as "If you tell the truth, you don't have a good memory" - because the original simply hits the brick wall subconsiously with me as untrue - for an appraiser. The latter version, would work with Skippy's interpretation, i.e. nobody really tells the truth.

Bert Craytor, SRA