Rickster60
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My daughter has a 61 acre equestrian center in the southeast which has a 20 yr commercial loan with a 10 yr ballon payment due within the next 18 months. She has done a lot to the property to turn it into an equestrian center - building two stall barns and a metal hay barn, building three lit sand and crumb rubber riding arenas, installing miles of wooden fencing, etc.
For market comp purposes, there really aren't any true comps in the area, even if you go back several years.. There are comps for houses on a lot of land, or a house with a small recreational stall barn, but nothing close to what my daughter has - tgey simply don't come on the market in her area and few people want to build from scratch like my daughter did.
An appraiser could add up the value of the land and the 2/2.5 house, plus all of the outbuildings, but from what I've read she may not even get back the construction cost of the buildings and will get no increase in value for the riding arenas and fencing, which was quite expensive.
I have invested in apartment buildings before, and she has a waiting list for both stall and oasture boarders, and her NOI from boarders is a function of the facility and its amenities, so I was wondering - can an equestrian center use the NOI from its boarding operations and a cap rate to determine an aporaised value?
The facility in question nets $200/mo per stall boarder and $100/mo per pasture boarder after all board and other related expenses, excluding PITI. There are 15 stall boarders and 35 pasture boarders for a 61 acre facility, with a waiting list for each type of boarder. There is also a 2/2.5 house on the property used by the owners but if rented would generate another $1000/mo conservatively. There are other income sources such as horse shows, summer camps, training, etc. but just using the annual NOI related to the “doors" yields $84K. In looking at CBRE's 2019 cap rate report North America Cap Rate Survey | H1 2019 there of course isn't a category for equestrian centers, but cap rates for multi-family properties were at 5.37 for all regions, with Tier III metro areas averaging about 5.5%. If we use a cap rate of about 9.5% we get an appraised property value of $884K, which will be higher than the value of the land ($360K) plus house ($225K) plus an 11 stall barn, a 4 stall barn, a new 40′ x 80′ metal hay barn, and three riding arenas.
And of course if we used a 7% rate, it is even higher..
Thoughts? Am I crazy thinking we can treat a stall or pasture slot as a “door" in an investment property? And if this makes sense, what cap rate would be appropriate? Clearly it should be higher than a multi-family investment property, but how much higher?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts..
For market comp purposes, there really aren't any true comps in the area, even if you go back several years.. There are comps for houses on a lot of land, or a house with a small recreational stall barn, but nothing close to what my daughter has - tgey simply don't come on the market in her area and few people want to build from scratch like my daughter did.
An appraiser could add up the value of the land and the 2/2.5 house, plus all of the outbuildings, but from what I've read she may not even get back the construction cost of the buildings and will get no increase in value for the riding arenas and fencing, which was quite expensive.
I have invested in apartment buildings before, and she has a waiting list for both stall and oasture boarders, and her NOI from boarders is a function of the facility and its amenities, so I was wondering - can an equestrian center use the NOI from its boarding operations and a cap rate to determine an aporaised value?
The facility in question nets $200/mo per stall boarder and $100/mo per pasture boarder after all board and other related expenses, excluding PITI. There are 15 stall boarders and 35 pasture boarders for a 61 acre facility, with a waiting list for each type of boarder. There is also a 2/2.5 house on the property used by the owners but if rented would generate another $1000/mo conservatively. There are other income sources such as horse shows, summer camps, training, etc. but just using the annual NOI related to the “doors" yields $84K. In looking at CBRE's 2019 cap rate report North America Cap Rate Survey | H1 2019 there of course isn't a category for equestrian centers, but cap rates for multi-family properties were at 5.37 for all regions, with Tier III metro areas averaging about 5.5%. If we use a cap rate of about 9.5% we get an appraised property value of $884K, which will be higher than the value of the land ($360K) plus house ($225K) plus an 11 stall barn, a 4 stall barn, a new 40′ x 80′ metal hay barn, and three riding arenas.
And of course if we used a 7% rate, it is even higher..
Thoughts? Am I crazy thinking we can treat a stall or pasture slot as a “door" in an investment property? And if this makes sense, what cap rate would be appropriate? Clearly it should be higher than a multi-family investment property, but how much higher?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts..