Certified appraiser moving to a non-reciprocal state - help!

[Ken B]

I relocated to FL from VA earlier this year. VA and FL are not reciprocal. FL does not officially recognize any education obtained out of state, so the licensing people forwarded my package to the Real Estate Division so they could review my education prior to being approved to sit the CR exam. (I am an SRA and have completed all the MAI required courses and have a Graduate Certificate in Real Estate and Land Development, you would think it would be a slam dunk decision...apparently not.) FL wanted me to take a more current 15-hour USPAP course and, because that NATIONAL course was taken outside of FL, the licensing people sent the certificate to the Real Estate people so it could be approved. Long story short, it took six months to get FL approval to sit the exam. Seems I was fortunate. I met at CG down here who moved from VA to FL at just about the same time I did; it took her 9 months to get approval to sit the exam.

Moral of the story: TN may very well accept education obtained elsewhere, but your wife will likely need to sit the exam again. Either way, start the application process as soon as possible so you can resolve any issues well in advance of the move.

One final note: Unless they recently changed it, FL had a paragraph buried at the end of their regulations stating that persons listed on the ASC roster as being AQB compliant were deemed to have satisfied FL's educational requirements. Seems that little regulation is (in)conveniently ignored for some reason. I would carefully read TN's regulations and see if they have a similar reg and, if so, hope that they follow their own rules. But, if not, what can you do? Start the process early and be patient.

A second final note: Be patient, but also be the squeeky wheel. My application approval took 3 months less than the CG's application approval because I finally started taking names and speaking to supervisors at the licensing section. The CG just went along for the ride.

 

[debbie graham]

Certified moving

Okay, I moved here from Colorado and it was H........ll, but I got through it,
I had all my logs in order and education and mailed them ahead of time, just having to to take a 15 hr classroom USPAP. My advice keep on 'em keep on 'em keep on 'em............I called and e-mailed to make sure my paper work was moving along, at one point I about pulled my hair out because someone at DBPR couldn't count and I was rejected, even though it took the same number of hours to get certified in Colorado, "Let's see, How'd she'd do dthat" duh! without having the right amt. of hours, they re-counted.
Anyway, be ready for some unemployment time. It took 3 months for them to approve my logs and education, then I had to take the Florida Cert. test, I passed first time, but not without full time studying to refresh on all the terms and knowing they basically try to trip you up on every question. Then who wants to hire an experienced Cert. appraiser in a down market?
BINGO!
With the assistance of local appraisers as far as "neighborhood/marketing" questions, I made it on my own, its a bit lonely, but if you work many many extra hours at the beginning learning your market and hit the road for new clients it will work out for you. Like anywhere their are good and bad appraisers and if you happen to hit upon some lenders that have had bad experiences with appraisers your in.
Good Luck!
Debbie

 

[Chris Colston]

Try Arkansas

I've had my Florida Cert since 1993, after coming from Maryland. Even back then, Florida would NOT recognize my Maryland education, but did allow my experience. In 1997 I moved (for a brief time) to Arkansas. All Arkansas wanted was a copy of the log that Florida had accepted and a letter of good standing. Since Arkansas is a Tennessee border state, it is most likely that they recpricate with each other. I would also try North and/or South Carolina. A friend of mine just moved (less than 6 weeks ago)to S. Carolina and is already working with a brand new shiny S. Carolina certification.

Florida does not have any reciprical agreements with any state....Florida has what is called a "mutual recognition" agreement with Georgia and Alabama (and maybe one or two others, I can't remember) and it only applies to certified appraisers, not trainees.

Whatever you do , do not give up your Florida certification until you are absolutely sure you won't be coming back. I'm so glad I kept mine active after trying Arkansas for a while.

 

[Vernon Martin]

What's the status on HR 3012? I've heard that it might mandate reciprocity between all states.

 

[Ken B]

What's the status on HR 3012? I've heard that it might mandate reciprocity between all states.

Well, hey! Something new and interesting to discuss.

Great idea from an appraiser's standpoint, but I don't see the States buying into it. Supposedly it is has been introduced and is "in committee". There are much more significant items in the bill and the reciprocity issues are minor in comparison. This is what the website says the bill's status.

"This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills go first to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills never make it out of committee. "

 

[Mr Rex]

49 states are probably against allowing any Cali appraisers reciprocity. Not meant as a broad brush of Cali appraisers, but they seem to stand out in the number of inept and the facilitators of the inept. Many states have tried to emulate them over the past few years, my own included.

 

[Vernon Martin]

49 states are probably against allowing any Cali appraisers reciprocity. Not meant as a broad brush of Cali appraisers, but they seem to stand out in the number of inept and the facilitators of the inept. Many states have tried to emulate them over the past few years, my own included.

Actually, the following 23 states have reciprocity with California:

Arizona
Linda Schutzenhofer
Schut_Linda@pop.state.az.us

Arkansas
Jim Martin
alcb@mail.state.ar.us

Colorado
Stewart A. Leach
Stewart.Leach@dora.state.co.us

Georgia
Charles Clark
grecmail@grec.state.ga.us

Illinois
Mike Brown
N/A

Iowa
Susan Griffel
Susan.Griffel@comm7.state.ia.us

Kentucky
Sam Blackburn
Sam.Blackburn@mail.state.ky.us

Louisiana
Anne Brassett
Info@lreasbc.state.la.us

Massachusetts
Judi Meltzer
Judy.meltzer@state.ma.us

Missouri
Judith Kolb
Jkolb01@mail.state.mo.us

Nebraska
Marilyn Hasselbalch
Mjhass@nrcdec.nrc.state.ne.us

New Hampshire
Sally R. Sullivan
Ssullivan@nhreab.state.nh.us

New Mexico
Mary James
Mary.James@state.nm.us

North Carolina
Melton Black
Ncab@ncab.org

Ohio
Lynne Hengle
N/A

Oregon
Bob Keith
Bob.keith@state.or.us

South Dakota*
Sherry Bren
Sherryb@crpr1.state.sd.us

Tennessee
Sandy Moore
Smoore3@mail.state.tn.us

Texas
Renil Liner
Rcliner@talcb.state.tx.us

Utah
Dexter Bell
Dbell@br.state.ut.us

Washington*
N/A
Realestate@dol.wa.gov

West Virginia
Sharon Knotts
Wvappbd@wvnvm.wvnet.edu

Wyoming*
Constance Anderson
Cander2@missc.state.wy.us

 

[Mr Rex]

Vernon, my apologies for the broad brush. But it does seem that CA has an overload of Trainees, and based on posts here.... little if any supervision. I did not mean to imply that there were not fine appraisers in California, including yourself. Heck, I think that some of the hands down best posters here and most knowledgeable Guys are from Cali, George Hatch and Denis DeSaix are among the best of the best IMHO.

 

[Mark A Rewbury]

This works....Apply to the State of Georgia for a reciprocal certified residential appraiser. They will accept your Florida qualifications. One you receive your appraisers licence apply to the state of your choice (since Georgia reciprocates with all states.) Make sure the state of your choice does not want you to actually live in Georgia. North Carolina is one of them. Download the reciprocal rules for the State of your choice and then apply. Easy as that.

 

[Ken B]

If you take the hopscotch routine, make sure TN doesn't prohibit the action. FL prohibits anyone getting a GA license through reciprocity with their home state from obtaining a FL license through its mutual agreement with GA.