Check building permits?

[Mike Kennedy]

house is in New Castle.

Town Code - section 48 can assist you solve your client's problem.

http://www.ecode360.com/?custId=NE0395

 

[Tim The Enchanter]

I've been to Building and Safety twice in > 18 years.
Typically the onus is on on the HO to prove that funky (or not so) add on is permitted.

If it's in the City of LA, I'll check the online permits and see what it has. I'm not sure how incomplete the online info is.

 

[The Matrix]

It's beyond the Scope of the Appraisal and unreasonable to expect that the appraiser will verify that all permits were pulled...properly.

Would it be reasonable to anticipate that a commercial appraiser would verify all building permits associated with large commercial project?

The appraiser could make an extraordinary assumption that all required permits were pulled.

 

[BDylan]

thanks

Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful replies. They were very helpful. Ultimately I added a section to my addendum in which I quoted paragraph 1 of the Statement of Assumptions and Limiting Conditions, then stated that I had no information about building permits for the subject, and that obtaining that information was outside of the SOW for this appraisal and was in addition not customary and usual practice among appraisers in this area. Then I made an extraordinary assumption that all work done to the place had been done according to applicable regulations, including obtaining any necessary permits. (I refrained from adding, "thanks for helping me waste my time.")

I expect this to be the end of it, but who knows?

 

[CANative]

For FannieStyle® reporting the EA won't cover your rear unless the condition the appraisal on verification of your assumption.

 

[Mike Kennedy]

Fannie April 2009 Appraisal Guidance

Site Section
Highest and Best Use of the Site
The highest and best use of a site is the reasonable and probable use that supports the highest present value on the effective date of the appraisal. ​

For an improvement to be considered the highest and best use of a site, it must:​

1. be legally permitted

2. be financially feasible
3. be physically possible
4. provide more profit than any other use of the site would generate


P.S. Post 11, the data IS available.

 

[CANative]

For an improvement to be considered the highest and best use of a site, it must:

1. be legally permitted

Legally permitted is not the same as having a permit. The context of the quote refers to an allowable use of the land, not a piece of paper demonstrating the completion of an administrative process.

i.e. There is a house on a lot. Houses are a permitted use. Thus the current use on the date of value is a legally permitted use. They never got a building permit. It's still a legally permitted use.

There is a house on a lot. Houses are a permitted use. They got the building permit when it was built. Last year they added another room. Larger houses with additional rooms are a legally permitted use. They didn't get the building permit to add the room. It's still a legally permitted use.

A guy tears his house down and builds a McDonald's. This is not a legally permitted use. He didn't need to get permits because there are no permits for uses that are not permittable. It's an illegal use.

 

[Webbed Feet]

Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful replies. They were very helpful. Ultimately I added a section to my addendum in which I quoted paragraph 1 of the Statement of Assumptions and Limiting Conditions, then stated that I had no information about building permits for the subject, and that obtaining that information was outside of the SOW for this appraisal and was in addition not customary and usual practice among appraisers in this area. Then I made an extraordinary assumption that all work done to the place had been done according to applicable regulations, including obtaining any necessary permits. (I refrained from adding, "thanks for helping me waste my time.")

I expect this to be the end of it, but who knows?

As you are so big on SOW, and I assume you meant the 2005 Fannie 1004.... then pray tell how did you add in an EA while NOT modifying the SOW against the prohibition of doing so without the use of CB4 in the reconciliation section?

 

[Webbed Feet]

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There is a house on a lot. Houses are a permitted use. They got the building permit when it was built. Last year they added another room. Larger houses with additional rooms are a legally permitted use. They didn't get the building permit to add the room. It's still a legally permitted use.

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According to whom? Your local planning and zoning departments, or my local planning and zoning departments?

 

[Webbed Feet]

It's beyond the Scope of the Appraisal and unreasonable to expect that the appraiser will verify that all permits were pulled...properly.

Really? And precisely what SOW are you referring to? The last one I had, or the next one I will have? Before we get so sure of ourselves, perhaps we should stop to consider local laws are not all the same all over this country, nor does one SOW that one does = all SOWs of all assignments every place in this country or even for any or all clients. Unless you've forgotten about this thing we call assignment conditions.

Would it be reasonable to anticipate that a commercial appraiser would verify all building permits associated with large commercial project?

Off topic question. But nice you asked.

The appraiser could make an extraordinary assumption that all required permits were pulled.

What appraiser could? For what assignments could they? I'm all ears.