Clarification from Newsletter

[Mark K]

I'm on the side of the fence where the degree is WORTHLESS, and REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE is true knowledge in our industry.

Most degrees are not worthless but in regards to real estate appraising, a degree is not necessary. One year including math, stats, technical writing, econ, and construction technology would be sufficient.

 

[chad hampton]

Yep. Couple the exposure draft with the current USPAP course (data collected during the inspection is not confidential was emphasized in a recent class) and that should give you all of the info you need to decide where we’re going and who’s driving the bus.

I have to give the unethical stakeholders credit for 1 thing - it’s so entertaining watching them word smith, use mental gymnastics, and out right make **** up whenever they have to to push their agenda through. Just too bad appraiser’s livelihood are being destroyed by their snake oil behavior.

 

[djd09]

cant write about schools, crimes, or politics...so what good is a english class

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Most college degrees would include some math classes and some writing classes.

A significant amount of degrees require neither. Fine Arts, Music, Philosophy, social studies, etc. And while a lot of liberal arts classes may require you to write reports and essays, few actually require more than the basic college English and writing is not a requirement of many degrees.

My own Alma Mater dropped the requirement for calculus and invertebrate zoology in my major. They also reduced the required hours to get a bachelors Degree.

I'll tell you why: Politics. Pure politics.

Same reason my state requires a professional stamp be purchased from one of two vendors. You then digitize the stamp and never touch it again. $30 as a payoff to get a legislator with a printing business to sign off on the original legislation that created the board.

Appraising is not the occupation a college grad should attempt. Appraising is an experience based issue. You either lean through life experiences or come out of RE sales, assessor work, accountants, banking, or some engineering background in valuation.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

so what good is a english class

Well, you need to learn a second language after Español becomes the primary language of the Estados Unidos de América,

 

[shrubberyvaluation]

Most degrees are not worthless but in regards to real estate appraising, a degree is not necessary. One year including math, stats, technical writing, econ, and construction technology would be sufficient.

Not worthless, but not worth the cost in most cases. Also many alternatives to learn the information with many free or cheap resources. You can add extra testing too in lieu of formal education. It might even be more useful as many forget information from college.

 

[Fernando]

They are proposing to remove the college degree requirements. A mistake in my opinion. They are also proposing to increase the stringency, and probably hours, of qualifying education. A good thing in my opinion. They are proposing to remove any elective courses. They can't really but, they can eliminate any CE credit for electives and electives will die on their own. Again, a mistake, in my opinion. Ultimately, they want all appraisers to be trained in exactly the same ways and same topics.

Many jobs don't need a college degree but still good to have giving students critical thinking skills.
Should be optional. I suspect those with college degrees do better and earn more.

 

[J Grant]

Everyone can have their opinion but we cant argue with resutls

The appraisal field on the residential side is circling the drain, and that is due in part to the lack of a college degree- all one has to do is compare it to other fields and professions (including the commercial cert gen side of appraisal), and the difference is apparent.

The fields and professions that require a college degree have a level playing field for entry and fwiw, command a level of respect even though now it is popular at the moment to scorn a degree -

 

[Non Sequitur]

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

hat is due in part to the lack of a college degree-

There are a lot of people in Walmart warehouses making more than the lower echelons in Hdq. And Tyson's hires degreed field men with agri degrees who make less than the truck drivers delivering feed to those same chicken houses. And many fieldmen are on call 24/7 from their growers.

Field Technician at Tyson Foods is approximately $44,000 to $63,000 per year, with an average base salary of around $53,000

(truck drivers via dedicated hauling) averaging around $27/hour, but can reach $80k+ with experience or bonuses, paying hourly ($20-$30+) or weekly ($1,500-$2,000+),and they get to be home every night plus get 401k and health insurance.

Long haul over the road trucks bump $100k in most areas. But if you aren't claustrophobic, an underwater welder on a drill rig can earn $200k. I knew a scuba diver who worked with the Corp of Engineers on contract. $700 a day plus they paid for his air. He had to quit when he failed the physical over a heart arrhythmia.