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Common Adjustment For A Detached 2 Car Garage

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Marlon Troy Campbell

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I have an appraisal for a pending home sale in a neighborhood around the 275-310K price point. All have 2 car attached garages. A few homes have an additional detached garages which includes the one I have pending. The garage is all brick, 1200 sf w/steps to stand up attic storage.

The appraiser is giving a $6000 adjustment for this detached garage. The owner can document that he paid 46K for the garage in 2004. FYI-The appraiser is giving a partial rear fence (.15 ac) and a security system a $3000 adjustment on the same property.

Would you consider this to be a typical adjustment that an appraiser would use in this price point and if not, what would be an adjustment you would consider?
 
It is impossible for us to answer that question without knowing the market.

Your question is this:
A second garage cost $46k to build 12-years ago. The neighborhood standard is 2-car garages. Some homes have additional garages like the house I'm transacting. Is it reasonable that this extra garage is worth $6k (13% of the prior cost) in the market?
You can see that we cannot answer that question without doing the market analysis to see what, if any, difference the additional garage had on value for the other homes that sold with them.

I will tell you this: it certainly isn't impossible that the additional garage is worth $6k. But, I understand your question (and your question is reasonable).

Did the report provide any evidence/support for how it arrived at its adjustment? If so (and if done correctly) that should satisfy your question. If not and since you are a broker, you can probably compare the extra garage homes vs. the standard garage homes and make some conclusions yourself. You can use your analysis as a reason to ask the lender for a Reconsideration of Value in regard to the contributory value of the additional 2-car garage.

Good luck!
 
I recently gave a 25k adjustment on a 100k (today's cost new) garage. I was given **** by the reviewer saying $10k is typical. This coming from someone who has never stepped foot in my market. I explained in detail (again), no change to the report and fired them.

No adjustment is 'typical' and is specific to the market/neighborhood area. In other words, there are no typical adjustment(s) for a garage.
 
Sue the bastid for the security system adjustment. How many companies will install one for free for the monthly monitoring fees? BTW, the owner got raped for a $46k detached garage, but don't let that lessen your animosity for the appraiser. If you are really a RE agent or Broker then you know damn well that cost doesn't equal value and maybe you don't quite understand what the contributory value of a detached garage is and better brace for lawsuits for misrepresenting the value. I dunno, but if you start to throw stones, you better have your sheets together less you find yourself on the wrong end of the bench...
 
It is possible the additional detached garage has some residual value. It is also possible that the market pays $0. above the mv of the 2C attached garage - determination must be extracted from directly competitive closed sales which reflect actual buyer reaction. Should you wish to challenge the appraisal simply provide the MOST directly competitive closed sales that sold for more with an additional 1C garage than those with 2C Att.Garages without the extra garage. All else is sheer conjecture.
 
The garage is all brick, 1200 sf w/steps to stand up attic storage.

The appraiser is giving a $6000 adjustment for this detached garage. The owner can document that he paid 46K for the garage in 2004. FYI-The appraiser is giving a partial rear fence (.15 ac) and a security system a $3000 adjustment on the same property.
Typical, and without a doubt totally unsupported adjustments. Send it to the state board & let them sort it out.
 
There are a lot of things that are not known here like the land area. Detached garages on large acreages have more value than a three-car detached garage on one acre.

So, the subject property has a two-car attached and the additional three-car detached?

In my market anyone who pays $46,000 for an additional three-car detached garage when they already have a two-car attached garage would be an idiot if they thought it was actually going to be worth close to that $46,000. Now, $6,000 is less than 1/3 of the cost of a decent pole barn so that does not appear reasonable either (if it were in my market).

In my market fences are worth about zero for most properties as they are a choice and most market participants could take it or leave it.

Security system adjustment. Idiot (in my market). When you quit paying $19.95 per month the security system does not work. I would adjust $1,000 for a German Shepherd security system before I would adjust for a system that requires a monthly payment. The German Shepherd adjustment would only apply if one were willing to give the dog food an water. :)
 
Perhaps the additional garage crowds the house and main improvements. Perhaps the site is overburdened with improvements and has little greenspace. Sometimes less is more and more is less. I once appraised a house which had a 2 car attached garage and two more 2 car detached garages. Both detached garages were along the driveway. One was close and faced the side of the attached garage. I could not figure out how a car could manuever into that garage. Dumb. The total footprints of the garages dwarfed the house. The property resembled a house with storage units. Not asthetically pleasing from the curb.

In the end, the house did not sell for anything above what other similar properties did without additional garages. It's called diminishing returns. Likely, the property could have sold for more by eliminating the additional garages or at least one of them.
 
I appreciate this forum and you guys taking the time to respond. I would like to add more details that might paint a better picture and reiterate some details. On a side note, when I read many of these post from persons as myself and my own, it appears some of you are hostile. It is almost like you want to show how stupid someone is instead of trying to help them and or answer the question as best you can with the information provided. I understand that an appraiser might need more information than can be provided many times in a "ask the appraiser" public forum and market conditions would need to be determined and other aspects but generally speaking, a 1150 sf, all brick detached garage, with (new information) water, electric, cable, steps to a 15x36 stand-up attic space and 12 foot ceilings in the garage would be a desired amenity for just about any home, generally. Of course, there is always that one home that the amenity would jack up the lot, or crowd the home or not fit or whatever but I am taking about the other 99% of homes where it would be an desired adjustable amenity. I am just struggling with the understanding how any appraiser can adjust @ $2,000.00 for a fence, $1,000.00 for a security system and $2,000.00 for an additional fireplace and give $6,000.00 for a detached garage as described. The percentage of value per amenity related to adjustments are out of proportion. I understand that a seller can't build a $7,000.00 deck and expect $7,000.00 in a higher sales price. We all understand this. So, with that said, in a suburban market with (new information) 7.8% growth rate over the last year in a neighborhood with .32-.45 lot sizes, where all the homes were built by the same builder and would be considered tract built homes, combined with absorbing the information above and in my original post, in a 275-310K price point, what typically would most appraisers adjust for if the subject property had an additional 2 car detached garage?

I did, through the lender, ask for a reconsideration and stated my concerns. I have been in the Real Estate business for 23 years and rarely have I felt it was my obligation to have an appraisal reconsidered. The only issue I have with our appraisal system (some of you are going to loose your mind and send me mean and hurtful messages, lol ) is there are a lot of variables that are opinion when a form of measurement is available. The system has the ability for a lot of science to it but there is an exception to most, if not all, of this science as it can be overridden by opinion and or the available science is not used. Which means very little science. An example would be, I was reading a post a few hours ago and an appraiser stated that they used $2,500.00 as their adjustment for each garage no matter the price point because that was how she was taught. Oh course, most appraisers on the thread drilled her to the point she probably was crying by the time she read all the comments but the point is, opinion is used instead of a set measure (paired sales). I mean, we sent a man to the moon in 1969. Surely there is a way to form basic amenity values per geographical area but can still be adjusted for based on some unique property characteristics involving said amenity.

If I hire 3 appraisers and ask each to appraise the same house, the chances are, they will all be different because of the ability to insert opinion mainly in the adjustment area but comparables to. Not every appraiser is great, nor Realtor, nor lender, nor title company, ext. so don't get crazy about this. It just seems like there should be a way to have more consistency on adjustments. Side note, when this house was appraised in 2010, the appraiser at that time gave this detached garage a $15,000.00 adjustment.

Again, thank you for your time in responding. Your time is valuable and I appreciate your answers.
 
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