Common Mistake On Appraiser Certifications

[Don Clark]

Don .. dont you think that is a board going a bit rogue? In my state I am Licensed as a Certified General Appraiser ... so there is a bit of a conflict in the terminology in my state no matter how you look at it.
It just seems to me the board would have to conclude thats a misleading report, however, rising to the level of suspension would suggest something far more at play than that mistake.

PE,

There may well have been other issues as well. I do not remember. But, a member of the board said..."If he does not know on which side of the report to sign, he must not know a lot about appraising....or words to that effect. If you are the only appraiser, you should know that you do not sign as a supervisory appraiser. the standard fiorms clearly distinguish between licensed and certified.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

PE,

There may well have been other issues as well. I do not remember. But, a member of the board said..."If he does not know on which side of the report to sign, he must not know a lot about appraising....or words to that effect. If you are the only appraiser, you should know that you do not sign as a supervisory appraiser. the standard fiorms clearly distinguish between licensed and certified.

Don perhaps a fair or unfair assessment on behalf of the board member. I would think education would have been sufficient if the report were in good order.
Frankly I would like to see the words Supervisor and Broker removed from the forms all together. It should not matter what license level the appraiser is, if there need to be two signatures then there need to be two signatures and one is not always supervisory but could merely be co-signer since that is in effect what is being done.

I just felt the suspension a bit harsh for such an apparent small infraction ... IF thats all that was wrong.

 

[Mary Tiernan]

Here in Michigan, the Administrative Rules dictate that the level of licensure be stated within the report.

Leaves little room for confusion.

 

[Laughing Heir]

Pennsylvania will bring the hammer down if the certified appraiser does not reiterate the level of their certification in the signature.

John Doe / PA Certified Residential(General) RE Appraiser
RL000001L
06/30/200X

I have seen hundreds of reports from other appraisers in my area (res. and gen.) that do not contain the PA mandated format. I don't know what the penalty is but maybe Bearslide does.

EDIT:

I just saw that Mary Tiernan said Michigan requires the same thing. Has anyone in MI been slapped around for not properly including their level of licensure in a report?

 

[Mr Rex]

Sadly, the states spend too much time on BS like this rather than the folks cheating, lying, and stealing. I guess it makes them appear to be involved and engaged. :new_all_coholic:

Of course if its on a fraudulent report, it obviously shows the appraiser to be an idiot, and a cheat.

 

[PropertyEconomics]

Sadly, the states spend too much time on BS like this rather than the folks cheating, lying, and stealing. I guess it makes them appear to be involved and engaged. :new_all_coholic:

Of course if its on a fraudulent report, it obviously shows the appraiser to be an idiot, and a cheat.

Yeah .. put your license number in the wrong place and you get suspended ... fly under the radar and consistently miss values by 20% ... no problem.

Simply amazing. My thought was if thats the only thing the board can find that is wrong and they choose to suspend ... perhaps they shouldnt be on the board ... they do have a priority issue.

 

[Hank Outlaw]

Read the local paper the other day... appraiser advertised his services including "NC Certified Appraiser"... failed to include whether he is residential or general. The records on the NC Appraisal Board website indicate he is "residential".

Hank

 

[Mr Rex]

Read the local paper the other day... appraiser advertised his services including "NC Certified Appraiser"... failed to include whether he is residential or general. The records on the NC Appraisal Board website indicate he is "residential".

Hank

He is in violation of NCAB rules. Of course, his transgressions are minor comparared to the latest appointee, he potentially has a place on the NCAB if his donations are properly directed.

57A .0403 Advertising​

(a) When advertising or otherwise holding himself out as a trainee or real estate
appraiser, a trainee shall identify himself or herself either as a "registered trainee" or as a "trainee reall estate appraiser," a licensed residential real estate appraiser shall identify himself or herself as a "licensed residential real estate appraiser," a certified residential real estate appraiser shall identify himself or herself as a "certified residential real estate appraiser," and a certified general real estate appraiser shall identify himself or herself as a "certified general real estate appraiser".​

 

[Mary Tiernan]

The Michigan law took effect recently, within the last two years I think.

I had to clarify with a Board member the requirements - if merely checking was satisfactory, or if it had to be spelled out. Board member (thank you Dave) said it must be spelled out.

I read the minutes of the Board meetings, and have never seen this cited specifically, however, there are some appraisers with additional sanctions such as violating a rule - might be that.

I have mentioned in a review that the appraiser failed to follow the law.

Had to tell my former mentor the law.

Michigan is also trying to get the Michigan law update required every two years. I think, based on what I see and hear in this state, that that is a good idea.

 

[Don Clark]

Code of Virginia

This is from the code of Virginia:



prev | next § 54.1-2017. Use of terms "Licensed Residential Real Estate Appraiser," "Certified Residential Real Estate Appraiser," and "Certified General Real Estate Appraiser"; authentication of reports.
An individual who is not licensed by the Board as a certified general real estate appraiser, a certified residential real estate appraiser, or a licensed residential real estate appraiser shall not represent himself as being so licensed or use in connection with his name or place of business the term "real estate appraiser," "general real estate appraiser," "certified general real estate appraiser," "licensed residential real estate appraiser," "certified residential real estate appraiser," "state certified real estate appraiser," "state licensed real estate appraiser," or any words, letters, abbreviations, or insignia indicating or implying that he is licensed as a certified general real estate appraiser, a licensed residential real estate appraiser, or a certified residential real estate appraiser in this Commonwealth.
Each licensed residential real estate appraiser, certified residential real estate appraiser, and certified general real estate appraiser shall comply with the standards of professional appraisal practice and code of ethics adopted by the Board and shall authenticate all written appraisal reports with his signature, license designation and license number.
All appraisal reports rendered in connection with federally related transactions shall be written.
(1990, c. 459; 1999, c. 57.)