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Part of the problem is the complete lack of absolute standard or examples. We are left to essentially guess what is meant by words (my bold above) such as higher, above-standard, significant, well-finished, upgraded, many, finishes. If the powers that be want absolute ratings, they need to make it very clear what separates.

The other issue is this--what if the interior demonstrates Q3 characteristics, but the exterior merely Q4? What's a poor UAD adhering appraiser to do? :shrug:

It's a loss when appraisers never sold RE...I worked as a RE agent sales for 5 years prior to becoming an appraiser, and it helps you "see" properties holistically ( the way buyers do ).If an interior is Q 3, but the exterior is a Q4, then would you say the interior was upgraded, but the house is still a C 4? Because it's right there in the UAD verbiage, a C 4 is stock quality design...therefore i'ts a C 4 with a nice upgrades ( vs a Q 4 without upgrades ) Having interior upgrades did not make the ceilings higher or give it exterior detail or above standard design etc...

Buyers , like UAD ratings, have cut off points of what they want and expect ( and thus can/ will pay for ) in a house.. And a buyer who can only afford C4, of course appreciates when it;s upgraded but is probably priced out of the C 3 market, and a C 3 buyer has certain standards they expect in a home and won't "downgrade" to a C4, even if the C 4 is nicely upgraded. There are exceptions of course but in general buyers fall into patterns and categories and the C and Q ratings fit those categories fairly well imo. Of course on the SC approach it's about other properties relative to subject, equivalent to or superior to or inferior too and UAD does not change that...it just gives more uniform categories from which to form a basis of the comparisons.. The UAD Q and C ratings should have equivalence in the cost approach too, and normally a C 3 house of same size will cost more to build new than a C 4 house. Upgrades added to the base house does not change that, the construction materials, and type of building architecture should cost more in a higher Q rating to build.
 
Res guy- Totally agree...and appraisers can be wrong. However, upgrading can change the quality rating.
Well, my house went from standard plain jane low Q4 to Q3 with significant exterior ornamentation and interior that were well finished. The workmanship exceeded acceptable standards and many materials and finishes throughout the dwelling were upgraded from “stock” standards to high end. Q3 all day now. :flowers:
You need to stop thinking that the improvement must have every items listed in order to qualify for that rating.
 
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Well, my house went from standard plain jane low Q4 to Q3 with significant exterior ornamentation and interior that were well finished. The workmanship exceeded acceptable standards and many materials and finishes throughout the dwelling were upgraded from “stock” standards to high end. Q3 all day now. :flowers:
You need to stop thinking that the improvement must have every items listed in order to qualify for that rating.

You think so, and perhaps it did .! Sounds like a great house...but...back to the rest of the houses out there....

from my experience/observations, a Q4 house that receives lots of upgrades including ext ornamentation ( what kind of ornamentation ?) remains a Q4 house, but it will be a Q 4 extensively upgraded or remodeled- and the upgrading or remodeling can significantly increase value. As far as an improvement having every item listed..it should fulfill the key items listed because that is what will qualify the house for the specific Q category....if we decide to ignore parts of the categories, they become worthless.
 
I dunno I've never seen one ! Wouldn't berm be a design/type of architecture, and then an individual berm home could be a range of quality? If it's expensive to build it would be higher quality- I have no experience with them.
 
I dunno I've never seen one ! Wouldn't berm be a design/type of architecture, and then an individual berm home could be a range of quality? If it's expensive to build it would be higher quality- I have no experience with them.
It's a below ground home...but the Quality includes exterior ornamentation for qualifications on UAD...something you're hanging your hat on. Oh oh....

Do you care to guess at the point I'm making? :)

Let's just say that it's not that cut n dry
 
It's a below ground home...but the Quality includes exterior ornamentation for qualifications on UAD...something you're hanging your hat on. Oh oh....

Do you care to guess at the point I'm making? :)

Let's just say that it's not that cut n dry
I have no idea, I have no experience with berm homes, my understanding is they are partially below ground built into a hill. What they cost to build or their quality I have no idea. What is the point?
 
So what quality home is a berm home?
Touché.

Let's just say that it's not that cut n dry
To me the only real measure is market extraction, I.e.- reverse engineering the cost approach to estimate the age- condition (effective age) of comps so in a home estimated to have 50 yr. total life, you have 50 C ratings... and you adjust accordingly. Usually $/year diff x SF. If you accurately estimate cost, replacement costs will eliminate most functional issues (address separately) and quality is addressed within the cost book...so you may not be more accurate but at least you have quantified the issue.
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I have no idea, I have no experience with berm homes, my understanding is they are partially below ground built into a hill. What they cost to build or their quality I have no idea. What is the point?
Quality includes exterior basis and you seem to think that it must have that basis mentioned in the rating...but does it? If that's so, then berm homes couldn't be rated under UAD. The point is that shows that the items mentioned in the rating don't necessarily need to all be there to be considered in that quality rating....even main items, such as exterior ornamentation, which is as you say, "a full key item". I've seen homes that are rectangle with nothing that fancy on the exterior, but amazing on the inside. Don't judge a book just by it's cover. Of course, on the flip side, the exterior can't be crappy q5 and expect that the interior upgrades turn it into a Q2. However, a q5 can be turned into a q4 by upgrades. As always...the answer is not no, rather....it depends.
 
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