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Sue McHugh

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I was always taught that if I appraised a condo, I needed 2 comparables from in the same complex and 1 in another comparable complex.

I read in Harrison's book that if the condos are new (or newer) you should get a comparable outside the complex, but if it is an older established building, you can use all comparables in that complex.

After reading that in the book, I did one report using all comparables in the same complex.

I just got another condo assignment and would like to know what others do.

Thanks.
 
Established projects with like type units and resales I use all inside sales. New condos with few or no resales, I select what I can get....1 or 2 inside, 1 or 2 outside. Sometimes all out side. If the project is really new I will use 2 of the builder's sales and then try and find 2 sales in a competing nearby like type project to also use.

Best sales are usually the ones inside, since all units are equally impacted by any special assessments, project amenities or lack of amenities, locational factors and views, as well as management issues and budgets.
 
Thanks,

I'm glad to find out that I was doing it right. I've questioned some of my training and read up on it, but I just need reinforcement.

Again, Thanks
 
Sue,

Fannie's Handbook for Appraisers says to use comps in the complex for existing complexes.

JC
 
Had an issue like that the other day. Condominium in newer planned development, lender wanted comp out side the development (it really was not necessary). I didn’t argue I always carry extra comps for all possible ocations it take a few extra minutes, it saves a trip, and I charge them for it. It is a win win situation. :cool:
 
This is the official Fannie Mae on comps from the 04/12/02 selling guide:

A. Selecting the comparables. The appraiser must report a minimum of three comparable sales as part of the sales comparison approach. The appraiser may submit more than three comparable sales to support his or her estimate of market value, as long as at least three are actual settled or closed sales. Generally, the appraiser should use comparable sales that have been settled or closed within the last 12 months. However, the appraiser may use older comparable sales as additional supporting data if he or she believes that it is appropriate. The appraiser must comment on the reasons for using any comparable sales that are more than six months old. In addition, the appraiser may use the subject property as a fourth comparable sale or as supporting data if the property previously was sold (and closed or settled). If the appraiser believes that it is appropriate, he or she also may use contract offerings and current listings as supporting data.

For properties that are in established subdivisions or for units in established condominium or PUD projects (those that have resale activity), the appraiser should use comparable sales from within the same subdivision or project as the subject property if there are any available. Resale activity from within the subdivision or project should be the best indicator of value for properties in that subdivision or project. If the appraiser uses sales of comparable properties that are located outside of the subject neighborhood, he or she must include an explanation with the analysis.

For properties in new subdivisions or for units in new (or recently converted) condominium or PUD projects, the appraiser must compare the subject property to other properties in its general market area as well as to properties within the subject subdivision or project. This comparison should help demonstrate market acceptance of new developments and the properties within them. Generally, the appraiser should select one comparable sale from the subject subdivision or project and one comparable sale from outside the subject subdivision or project. The third comparable sale can be from inside or outside of the subject subdivision or project, as long as the appraiser considers it to be a good indicator of value for the subject property. In selecting the comparables, the appraiser should keep in mind that sales or resales from within the subject subdivision or project are preferable to sales from outside the subdivision or project as long as the developer or builder of the subject property is not involved in the transactions.

Because rural properties often have large lot sizes and rural neighborhoods can be relatively undeveloped, there may be a shortage (or absence) of recent truly comparable sales in the immediate vicinity of a subject property that is in a rural location. This means that the appraiser will often need to select comparable sales that are located a considerable distance from the subject property. In such cases, the appraiser must use his or her knowledge of the area and apply good judgment in selecting comparable sales that are the best indicators of value for the subject property. The appraiser should include an explanation of why the particular comparables were selected in his or her analysis.

Now, can anyone provide the official Freddie Mac section that corresponds to this one. I have one lender than insists on one comp from outside the condominium project the subject is in even if a third comp from inside the project is better than any comp I can find outside the project. I think Freddie stays consistent with Fannie on this but I don't have the current Freddie guidelines.

The exact Freddie guidelines on this would help my cause with the lender. Please, anyone???
 
Freddie Mac Single Family Seller/Servicer Guide Chapter 44.16

For properties located in established subdivisions or for units in established Condominium or PUD projects or ground lease communities (those that have resale activity), the appraisal report may use three comparable sales from within that subject project or subdivision. However, if the subject property is in a controlled market (such as a new subdivision or project, a newly converted project or an area where the property seller owns a substantial number of units), at least one comparable sale must be outside the influence of the developer, builder or property seller. Resales from within the subject project or subdivision may be used to meet this requirement. When comparable sales from outside the subject project or subdivision are used, they must also be outside the influence of the subject property's developer, builder or property seller.
 
Jo Ann:

Thank you, as always, for your input and for providing what I was looking for. Do you have a date for that excerpt?
 
At Valuation 2004 November 9--one of the speakers was Jacquey Doty from Freddie Mac--she passed out free to all attendees at her seminar a booklet containing Chapter H33: Manufactured Homes and Chapter 44. It was printed as of November 1, 2004 with a statement on the cover that Freddie Mac Forms and Guide updates can be accessed at www.freddiemac.com/sell/guide
At the bottom of each page in the booklet is the statement "Page Issued--Bulletin 2004-4". She is checking into that information being provided free of charge to appraisers, maybe through Allregs or eventually on their web site. Right now it appears the only way to get it is to ask a nationwide lender for a copy. Last spring I got a copy of H33 by talking to a chief appraiser with a large national lender.
 
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