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Condominium (wood vs carpet)

Airstream

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I am doing an appraisal for a legal proceeding. It is kind of strange. So here is the explanation. Just wondering how you would handle this?


1. A builder bought a condominium when it was being built and he himself finished the interior he put in wood floors (2nd floor condominium). He says that he did this in good faith and pleads ignorance to the HOA rules that state that no wood floors can be used on second floor condominiums. He also put in a lot of other upgrades, etc. That was about 20 years ago.


2. When he just sold the unit, he sold it for less than what he thought he should get for it because the condominium complex forced him to disclose to the new buyers they would have to put in carpet and NOT have wood flooring. The estimates ranged from 15,000 to 30,000 for carpeting.


3. He is suing the condominium for what he considers to be the sale value difference of a condominium with wood flooring and what he finally had to sell the condominium for.


4. The problem of course is there are NO OTHER units that ever-had wood flooring in the complex. So doing a market sensitivity analysis from within the complex is a non-starter.


5. I talked to the realtor that sold the property, and she said another issue that buyers had was the fact the seller turned the one car garage into another bedroom. This is a second story unit. There was no bathroom on the same level as the garage. AND it eliminated storage area for things like bikes, golf carts, etc. This is a recreational area and people store all that stuff in their garage. In fact, the buyers are converting the bedroom back into a garage with estimates of about 40,000.


Here are my conclusions so far:


1. Not possible to really determine market value difference from wood to carpet since there is no real data within the complex. I’ve done a number of appraisals of units in this complex.


2. The main issue with the property is the functional obsolescence the seller created by turning the garage into living space and thus putting major constraint on convenient storage.


Did I miss anything? Any suggestions?
 
Did the builder know that wood floors were banned when the existing HOA stated this rule?
 
Carpet should cost less than 10k or even less than 5k to install unless the second floor is gigantic or the carpet is a rare silk antigue -yes, sounds likely the garage conversion of other factor tered more - the build sounds like a litgoius jerk and he could just as easily turn around and sue you - I would decline this loser assignment.

How can he hold the condo responsible for a lower sale price by having him disclose a condo regulation - This builder person as the seller/ owner should have disclosed that to the borrower,-
 
Carpet should cost less than 10k or even less than 5k to install unless the second floor is gigantic or the carpet is a rare silk antigue -yes, sounds likely the garage conversion of other factor tered more - the build sounds like a litgoius jerk and he could just as easily turn around and sue you - I would decline this loser assignment.

How can he hold the condo responsible for a lower sale price by having him disclose a condo regulation - This builder person as the seller/ owner should have disclosed that to the borrower,-
The builder sounds stupid....
 
Those estimates are outrageous. 15 to 30k for carpet? Please.... you don't even have to remove the mistakenly put in wooden floors.... pad and carpet right over them.

As for the garage conversion, I highly doubt that the owner removed the garage door as the complexe's occupants would put up a big stink as would the association. So what's in there? A partition wall? Maybe a counter for an electric stove and a toaster? What's the $40k for??

You can go to Homewyse.com to get an estimate for the carpet install. And download the Thumbtack app send some pictures to a couple handyman types to get quotes on converting the garage back to its original use and hauling away the material.

The contractor didn't have to accept the offers given to him..... but he did.
 
If the builder is lying about the carpet costing 15- 30k, they are not a trustworthy person and are liable, avoid people like that as a client. I have to wonder why an appraiser would believe it cost 15-30 k to install carpet - we are supposed to have a working idea of costs.

Tack down some padding and lay carpet over it takes less than a day.
 
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If the builder is lying about the carpet costing 15- 30k, they are not a trustworthy person and are liable, avoid people like that as a client. I have to wonder why an appraiser would believe it cost 15-30 k to install carpet - we are supposed to have a working idea of costs.

Tack down some padding and lay carpet over it takes less than a day.
High cost area. And frankly i will get my own estimate after I measue
 
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