Condominium (wood vs carpet)

[J Grant]

I can't belive the HOA is spendidng money hiring an appraiser for this. Unless the judge is a moron, they would throw the case out. Speaking of which, a judge might make a ruling like split the difference just to make this go away.

Calling Judge Judy.

40k to convert a one-car garage made into a bedroom back into a garage ?? Is the garage door still in place or was it removed? Though it does not really matter what a buyer spends to retrofit the garage, the owner did not get the price he wanted; and it was their decision to take the price. If the unit was upgraded 20 years ago, it is outdated by now -

Bottom line, what is the seller;s complaint - that the board has a must carpet upper level rule ? The builder chose to ignore it. That the board made him dsilse it to the buyer? The builder should have dissloed it anyway.

Judge - I am fining everyone involved in this for general idiocy.

 

[jay trotta]

A must Read, are the By Laws - then again, some folks just do what they want and when a problem comes up, they're ready to file a suit. There is also a chain of command, get the board's approval and limit the nonsense. But, in the long run, we are dealing with Human Beings.....most ignore procedure, so let em lick boots...........hahahahaaaa

 

[Surf Cat]

Not being a smart Azz I just have no idea where $30,000 carpeting and no wood flooring allowed has gone this far.

I'll be one.......it's a Wokedaminium

 

[Tom D]

Was this all done before there was a hoa? Were there any rules in place at the time. Then i understand the nuances of this case if there were no rules when done.

If it was done after the hoa was installed, how did nobody notice the garage change or rehab noise that was going on. Most hoa seem to be like the fbi, know every little thing going on. If it was done after the rules were established, then tough luck for the owner who did it for their own personal benefit.

Hey, you like my garage, now bedroom, conversion. Not really, i like the garage better. And the seller thinks the hoa caused a loss in value by having the carpet rule. And you be the dopey appraiser who may agree these items could have made it more valuable, while breaking their rules. Now i agree with some here. Get your foot out of this bear trap. You are valuing an illegal use, so it a hypothetical value.

Do this appraisal, or not. Run rabbit run, is my advice. This is so convoluted that there are many people involved, any of whom will not like your opinion. Then sent to the state who may pick you apart and fine you to death for all the little mistakes you made.

Although, i am confused about what and for whom you are doing this for, and it's purpose. The argument seems more like a hoa condition rule issue. Not a loss of value from an illegal use/doing.

 

[CindyR]

Why would the HOA prohibit wood floors????

 

[glenn walker]

Why would the HOA prohibit wood floors????

Because upstairs units make noise when the occupants in felony flats, dance all night on fridays and saturdays, and in the daytime their kid's skate on them...lol

 

[glenn walker]

The joke in the last Hoa property we
own and rent is, are the gates and speed bumps and watch for children signs designed to protect the Inmates that live inside, or for the criminals that are living outside, who try to break in.

But no Karen's the last two were physically chased out by the teens on skate boards, because they don't obey the no motor bikes or skateboard signs.

But all this for only $500.00 per month and even 24/7 security by a unarmed 75 year old who can barely walk. Ya gotta love condo life...lmao

 

[Surf Cat]

HOA's are rife with corruption.....

Self-dealing board members, are particularly dangerous as their actions are subtle and hidden for personal gain....when everyone's wondering why their balconies aren't being fixed....the board members are vacationing in Hawaii.

I mean let's take the OP's case here....how in the heck could this builder do that extensive of a garage conversion without complaints from the other owners within the complex? The frigging door was removed with the opening framed and stuccoed! Something's amiss.....
..

 

[glenn walker]

HOA's are rife with corruption.....

Self-dealing board members, are particularly dangerous as their actions are subtle and hidden for personal gain....when everyone's wondering why their balconies aren't being fixed....the board members are vacationing in Hawaii.

I mean let's take the OP's case here....how in the heck could this builder do that extensive of a garage conversion without complaints from the other owners within the complex? The frigging door was removed with the opening framed and stuccoed! Something's amiss.....
..

There's always one Karen who seems to run every Hoa Board and she decides that nobody especially a man will comply or she will use every last dollar of Hoa money to bankrupt you, in litigation and legal fees.

In California even, having two attorneys in the immediate family, we don't fight a Hoa because at least in this State they have immense power in the court's.

We just obey their orders and will never purchase a HOA property again.

 

[J Grant]

Sometimes the best appraisals are the ones that do not get made.

On more than one occasion, I have talked potential clients out of getting an appraisal because they did not need one.

The condo board, IMO, just needed a letter from an appraiser or RE agent stating that it is speculation wrt the unit sold for less. Nobody forced the seller to ake the offer, and the condo was obligated to disclose its carpet rule to buyers.

Unless the buyer is interrogated and hooked up to a polygraph, it's impossible to know whether they paid less because of the wood floors, the garage conversion, the unit being dated, or other reasons.