Corporate Credit Bubble Article

[Meandering]

Blue pills and Red pills, E-dysfunction and Math? We need a purple pill to suppress the indigestion.

Speaking of pills,
once I finish the project I'm working on, I'm going to do some research about blood pressure pills.

It has come to my attention that I know multiple people taking blood pressure meds for 40+years. No, they don't have high blood pressure, that's why they take their pills. Did they ever have high blood pressure? Maybe the one day 40 +/- years ago when they weren't medicated, and the doctor put a cuff on them to check. It just seems convenient that there is no way to check an unmediated blood pressure pill addict, because stopping the pills is "dangerous". How many years can a person take blood pressure meds, other than for the rest of their life? An economic quagmire because you were excitable one day, or were having an excitable period of your life when you got "prescribed"? Heck, women don't even need birth control pills for 40+/- years.

 

[Big ole Boy]

Blue pills and Red pills, E-dysfunction and Math? We need a purple pill to suppress the indigestion.

Speaking of pills,
once I finish the project I'm working on, I'm going to do some research about blood pressure pills.

It has come to my attention that I know multiple people taking blood pressure meds for 40+years. No, they don't have high blood pressure, that's why they take their pills. Did they ever have high blood pressure? Maybe the one day 40 +/- years ago when they weren't medicated, and the doctor put a cuff on them to check. It just seems convenient that there is no way to check an unmediated blood pressure pill addict, because stopping the pills is "dangerous". How many years can a person take blood pressure meds, other than for the rest of their life? An economic quagmire because you were excitable one day, or were having an excitable period of your life when you got "prescribed"? Heck, women don't even need birth control pills for 40+/- years.

Medicine and the AMA. Talk about quagmires of quacks. The fountain of knowledge is free to all. Our medical cabal in the western world is a laughing stock.

 

[djd09]

"Meet the new boss, just like the old boss"

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

No new wealth is created except that taken from the ground or sea. Agriculture, timber, mining/drilling, aquaculture. Marxism elevates labor to the top of the agents of production but in reality land (and its materials), capital and coordination are minimizing labor via automation and computerization.

 

[Big ole Boy]

No new wealth is created except that taken from the ground or sea. Agriculture, timber, mining/drilling, aquaculture. Marxism elevates labor to the top of the agents of production but in reality land (and its materials), capital and coordination are minimizing labor via automation and computerization.

Terrell, thats a cold way of saying we surfs are just the lowest common denominator. Bitcoin won't make us lords? Just an animal farm. There is no God. Terrel, you always have to be a party pooper. Couldn't we believe we surfs can wiggle our way out into that "city on a hill?" Bitcoin won't be our magic carpet? Dang Terrel!

 

[Riick]

It has come to my attention that I know multiple people taking blood pressure meds for 40+years. ... ...one day 40 +/- years ago when they weren't medicated, and the doctor put a cuff on them to check.

Dozen years ago, a young Internist said my BP was 120/80, he'd be treating me for high-blood-pressure.
They'd moved the goal posts, what was normal for years, was now diseased.
"No"
"I don't treat un-cooperative patients"
"That's OK, I can find another Physician" Bye

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

surfs

Serfs? The serf feudal system died when the Black Plague created a labor shortage. Labor hasn't been on top since. Slavery was another way of imposing lower wages upon the working man. But then we could oppose the bankers, government (management) and were free to own land (unless enslaved). Land was the ticket out of the serfdom of labor but today we cannot strike out at the banker nor politicians because our replacement is a computerized robot autotron. They have successfully isolated themselves from direct contact with the working class. Our only way out is via land (incl. mineral, crop, etc.) which circles us back to who controls the markets...

 

[Big ole Boy]

Serfs? The serf feudal system died when the Black Plague created a labor shortage. Labor hasn't been on top since. Slavery was another way of imposing lower wages upon the working man. But then we could oppose the bankers, government (management) and were free to own land (unless enslaved). Land was the ticket out of the serfdom of labor but today we cannot strike out at the banker nor politicians because our replacement is a computerized robot autotron. They have successfully isolated themselves from direct contact with the working class. Or only way out is via land (incl. mineral, crop, etc.) which circles us back to who controls the markets...

Surfs, no I mean serfs .... right ..... land, minerals ...... so hold land, farm land .... and don't let em tax us off it .... and my PM horde at the bottom of the river where I lost it in a boating accident .... maybe their is a God ..... I sure would like to be around and watch the worm turn ... hey, I hear the worm is turning on the Bundy Trial fiasco ..... maybe enough TPTB .... see the same asymmetric .... as you .... control the land and the minerals ....

 

[Big ole Boy]

I read an interesting article this morning:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...-so-blame-the-credit-market-bubble-2017-12-27

Maybe this is all elementary discussion for some of you, but I was not aware of the recent increase debt being taken out by corporations. It does mention predictions of inverting yield curves near the end of 2018.

It seems that crashes happen well after the fundamentals triggering said crash suggests overvaluations of stocks. Of course, we could simply point to trailing P/Es and say that stocks are overvalued now, but a growing concern in late 2017 regarding corporate debt holdings would not be sufficient to trigger a crash in 2018, though as long as the bull market has run, it would not surprise me if there is a significant downward move in 2019/ 2020. What are your thoughts on the market or on this article?

It is elementary defacto "state markets", not stock markets any longer. Basically, we are in the throws of a state of emergency with our financial system. State markets are void of any price discovery. You could say that market discovery is a thing of our past.

We were never taught in our formative "edumacation system" how to "respond" to the complete hijacking of our system.

If uni-polar globalism is to be our destiny, then we won't really need to spend anymore time here in these threads wasting our energy on making sense of our markets anymore.

 

[Big ole Boy]

Serfs? The serf feudal system died when the Black Plague created a labor shortage. Labor hasn't been on top since. Slavery was another way of imposing lower wages upon the working man. But then we could oppose the bankers, government (management) and were free to own land (unless enslaved). Land was the ticket out of the serfdom of labor but today we cannot strike out at the banker nor politicians because our replacement is a computerized robot autotron. They have successfully isolated themselves from direct contact with the working class. Our only way out is via land (incl. mineral, crop, etc.) which circles us back to who controls the markets...

The "autotron" ... Terrel, you have some clear notions about the "whole theater of things". They are big ideas. You posit everything into "cost approach" .. capital, land, arbitrage .... units of production ... I just finished reading a book about how we took the shores of Tripoli back in the early 1800's. Amazing how things have changed over time.

I try hard not to get depressed about life. But it is very depressing when you look at it, as you have described - but, it is this way.

My hope is that, TPTB can not see everything and that their is a larger theater than what they can comprehend. But, it may very well be that we are going to be "culled" and the elites will be "the potter" and the "clay" will be this isolated "labor".

A world that is quite frightening ...