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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=VA&aid=20422

Killer article, thank you.

Shadow stock may very well be a much more prevalent issue than many initially dared to consider.

This would not have happened if people listened to the appraisers so many years ago in the first place. According to this article, the lenders are releasing LO held shadow stock on a 10 year time scale in some instances.

On topic: Now some lenders are not listening to appraisers all over again. They are setting the appraisers independent fee. Some lenders used to only work with the appraisers who could bring in pre set valuation figures. Now by way of AMC, they only work with appraisers who can maintain the most lender preferable stats and product price. A core fundamental of the appraiser, is that they are independent and should be able to provide professional discretion without fear of negative consequences.

Separate the AMC bill and the appraisers bill. They are clearly two distinct and separate services. The intermingling of these two bills detracts from the appraisers ability to be independent. Appraisers are almost forced to show advocacy for the clients, in accepting reduced fees. Without the benefit of reduced product costs savings being passed to the consumer, appraisers who take discount are basically showing advocacy towards the lender. They are willingly providing a less robust appraisal, at the potential risk of the residential consumer, even though the residential consumer has paid the same if not more for that reduced cost service.
 
Not everyone is predicting doom and gloom.

http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/housing-markets-that-will-be-strongest-by-2014.html


Top 10 Housings Markets That Will Be Strongest by 2014

1. Washington

The Bremerton/Silverdale area, on Puget Sound's Kitsap Peninsula, has the highest growth forecast of all MSAs in the country, with prices expected to jump 44.7 percent by 2014. Washington's second strongest market is Tacoma, with a growth rate expected to be 33.1 percent. Prices in the Seattle area are expected to grow 25.5 percent by 2014.


 
"Fiserv and Moody’s Economy.com base the housing forecast on factors that include income growth, demographic trends, unemployment rates, foreclosure rates, and construction costs.

2014: Bremerton-Silverdale metro Forecast 4-year price increase: 44.7 percent
2014: Bend metro Forecast 4-year price increase: 33.6 percent
2014: Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn metro Forecast 4-year price increase: 33.1 percent
2014: Napa metro Forecast 4-year price increase: 31.7 percent
2014: Carson City metro Forecast 4-year price increase: 31.6 percent"

I'm not sure I understand how 'projected' increases in prices in the next 4 years
relate to appraisals fees (are they linked?), but Bloomberg and Fiserv (ha ha)
didn't publish the accuracy of their prediction of property values in the last 4
years along with this feel good 'projection.' They never do.
 
Not everyone is predicting doom and gloom.

http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/housing-markets-that-will-be-strongest-by-2014.html


Top 10 Housings Markets That Will Be Strongest by 2014

1. Washington

The Bremerton/Silverdale area, on Puget Sound's Kitsap Peninsula, has the highest growth forecast of all MSAs in the country, with prices expected to jump 44.7 percent by 2014. Washington's second strongest market is Tacoma, with a growth rate expected to be 33.1 percent. Prices in the Seattle area are expected to grow 25.5 percent by 2014.


Predicting the housing market is difficult. If the results are true, then housing prices will be staying low for a while, with wild swings up and down. This is because no one knows what is going to happen. We have not seen this before. It is unprecidented. We can't do research and say "In 1950 when this exact same thing happened . . . ."
 
Predicting the housing market is difficult. If the results are true, then housing prices will be staying low for a while, with wild swings up and down. This is because no one knows what is going to happen. We have not seen this before. It is unprecidented. We can't do research and say "In 1950 when this exact same thing happened . . . ."


And it is unprecidented because the government, during this crisis, is not steady and consistent in their actions .... not being able to predict what the course of the government is going to do is a major contributor to the continuation of the crisis.
 
Some of these areas are such that there's no real room to grow. For example, Bremerton is hemmed in by the bay and restricted areas.

Detroit to have higher prices? Let's see. $5000 homes worth $9000 by 2014. Yep. That's an 80% growth in prices. Nah. Still circling the drain, and they're bulldozing homes. Who in their right mind would move to that disfunctional city? The only reason it existed was the auto industry and it's moving out. GM is building a new plant...in MEXICO.

Just more hot air, IMO.
 
Re "reasonable and customary fees" please take 10 minutes and complete the survey at www.feesurvey.com.
Hey Joan, you survey doesn't allow blank fields. I don't do FHA nor do I have a standard price for 1004D, or reviews. Also, I don't have a set fee for my county as one end is tract and the other mostly custom homes with a $100 base price difference.

Oh, and BTW I believe what you will receive in this survey is base pricing. My base URAR price was nearly $100 less than my average URAR fee charged last year once the complexity of the assignment was factored in.
 
Re "reasonable and customary fees" please take 10 minutes and complete the survey at www.feesurvey.com.

If the AMC is currently charging $400-500 for an appraisal isn't that in fact the fair and customary fee? I have read 100s of settlement statements where the appraisal fee is listed between $400-500 in my market so I'll assume that is the documented fee. I would also assume the AMC invoices state the same. How could they state the "fair and customary fee" was/is anything less? It would contradict a mountain of physical evidence. Perhaps now the members of TAVMA are all about separating the fees so they get to keep their piece of the pie? Appraisers have been screaming to separate the fees for years so there was/is full disclosure to the public but that was/is never advantageous to those who control the flow of GSE work (along with all the directives to not discuss fees with homeowners etc....) We all know what the fees are Joan.Manipulating a survey to show they are less than what has been listed on a few million HUD-1 statements over the past few years is a bit disingenuous don't you think?
 
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