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Dairy Farm Income

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SRQCUB

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Farm history, 11 years ago owner woke up, got into dairy biz, on 350 acres, family owned land, ten years later and after failure, leases dairy operation to local comglomerate,

Currently leases out dairy portion of property 210 acres for $42,000 a year. Per lessee this is a very generous lease taking into consideration of $300,000 of improvements made, of which approxiamtly $270,000 is personal property, pivot irrigation, milk storage. What stays is the improvements ($30,000) made to the 32 cow milking station, Wiakato, parabone line-up system. At concurance of lease which is a whopping 3 years with 2 years remaing there is a 50/50 chance the lessee will stay. And thus leaving the the owner with his old failing dairy operation. Per lessee this was a very generious situation for the owner. As detailed by the over market price per acre $200, take out milking parlor, $150 an acre and the lessee had to install pivot, concurancy etc..., after he removes irrigation and said end of lease, we are looking at $40-50 an acre for pasture.

Second soucre of income is from, waste managemant disposal, there is no contract owner says income could be gone tommorow. Has averaged about $100,000 last three years via tax returns from waste management.

Has a $450,000 nitrogen reduction system, that was provided via a grant and has been inoperational for the last two years. Per installer system might not be able to be brought back on-line, and therefore worthless.

Loan is based on $142,000 net farm income, and i'm capped out at that right now, with no positive future forcast for this properties future income, nor for the future for small dairy farms in general in the state of FL.

However potential gross income with property due dillignece, management, could be obtainable, maybe, property is permitted for 599 cows, turn residential yard waste, nitrogen reduction system has potential.

Report has to be written to CV101 standards and Farmer Mac requirements, for the life of me I can't see how this is going to go threw.

Providing a hypothetical analysis on the potential gross income still does not wain from what is actually being produced on the property today, plus the owner has a poor history of biz management.

Can I chew a ear with a expericanced farm appraiser.
 
11 years ago owner woke up, got into dairy biz,
must have had a stroke in the middle of the night. Obviously deranged.

on 350 acres, family owned land, ten years later and after failure,
a given
leases dairy operation to local comglomerate,
how long is the term? 2 remaining years??? The risk is extraordinarily high that it won't continue. A 5 yr contract would be better. So some of the equipment would leave with the renter right?

Looks like you would have a future weaker income situation....higher cap rates. Our small farms have basically disappeared. The closest barn to me closed 10 years ago, and the next closest was built in 1994± and closed 5 years ago...less than 10 years old. The barns made no contribution in their sale, and one was dozed. The other is used as a horse barn.
But this reminds me of old poultry barns badly managed. They are going out period. Small operations cannot survive. Cap rates are high, often 20% or more.
 
Apprasial was cancelled after my determination of wanting to find out about the 14 year operation of waste management collection, it seems that no one from the owner to the lender wants me to verify the future sustainability.

Can't verify income, lender said well that not required in Farmer Mac loans, I replied should I throw in the value from the pot of gold that the little green leprican was gaurding, can I verify that this action is O.K. with the underwriter or whomever, cause Farmer Mac loans require prior approval when making hypothetical conditions, and its not like this guy needs one more well, its verifing 75% of the income on the property.

Was told I have a negative attitude about the property, replied if you say that one more time about me having a "negative attitude on the property" i'll cancel the report. The lender decided it was best that i do not continue with the report. Thats fine with me cause i wouldn't sign it under there stips anyway.
 
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Second soucre of income is from, waste managemant disposal, there is no contract owner says income could be gone tommorow. Has averaged about $100,000 last three years via tax returns from waste management.
It is common in the dairy business for the $hit to be worth more than the milk. :new_all_coholic:

A farmer down where I used to live in Charlotte got a Home Depot contract and just quit dealing with the milk.
 
What's a para bone line up system? I have heard of herring bone barns, but not para bone.
 
Parabone and herringbone, I believe, are the same. I think they are called parabone in New Zealand. We have a grass based dairy operation in this area in its first year. Folks from New Zealand built it. It is not building intensive, nor a labor intensive operation. Seems to be very efficient.
 
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