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Data Cancer Due to Waivers

I remember when the FSLIC was rolled into the FDIC because they went busted. Why? Because the powerful Savings and Loan financial institutions were misbehaving with mortgages and utilizing manipulated data in their internal appraisals. There was no independence then, and the data became cancerous because pricing was unrealistic yet that didn't stop the lenders from lending which produced even more problems in over pricing. We all saw it, and many predicted problems long before they showed up. I was there during those days, as were you and many others out here. That is why we exist as a license profession.

I would submit that we've seen data cancer before. Saw it begin to happen again before HVCC required buffers in place between the appraiser and the banker before Congress passed Dodd/Frank. Why was that needed? Because history tends to repeat itself if we go back to the same ways as before. We'd better be mindful once again.
Great post.

Those who want to gain market share juice valuation numbers and loosen standards, whether it was internal staff in the 80s or via appraisal modernization and waivers now. History is repeating itself. Some are ringing the alarm bell, but I have no confidence anyone of consequence will take action.
 
Great post.

Those who want to gain market share juice valuation numbers and loosen standards, whether it was internal staff in the 80s or via appraisal modernization and waivers now. History is repeating itself. Some are ringing the alarm bell, but I have no confidence anyone of consequence will take action.
You just follow money. It will lead you to the where the problems have been and still are. It is at the top. Appraisers have never been able to unite.
 
If appraisers would have ever united like most professions, it would have been and can still be different.
 
If appraisers would have ever united like most professions, it would have been and can still be different.
Certainly, you are correct Zoe. But to be very honest, uniting isn't in the nature of being independent. Our profession requires independence and tends to attract that personality.

We are also too small to unite alone, so who would unite with us? Bankers? Realtors? GSE's? All those are problems, because they are often governed by greed and power. (I'm not saying that to disparage anybody, as it's simple fact in those industries and I came from the banking world).

To unite would require the collective to push an agenda by threat of a strike to stall the system. Do appraisers have that power in this environment? Probably not because greed and power demands more production and we would see the mechanism ignore our role just as it did often during the pandemic.

The appraisal profession, in my view, is one of the very few entities in existence that requires help from oversight to exist simply because of our nature. For instance, the HVCC was a pain in our behind, but it actually cured a problem of independence that was being thwarted between the banker and the appraiser. GSE's would slice us out of existence overnight if they were able, but they can't as of yet, so they constantly try to find ways to do things without us. Bankers only care about getting the deal done and pocketing the servicing fees. Realtors want the commission without interference or delay. Borrowers want to buy, and sellers want to sell. The independent appraiser is in the middle being sure the numbers make sense without bias, while many are often hammering us. It's a shame really because we are needed more than some might think.

Oversight has helped us exist, not a union or even an association.
 
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Certainly, you are correct Zoe. But to be very honest, uniting isn't in the nature of being independent. Our profession requires independence and tends to attract that personality.

We are also too small to unite alone, so who would unite with us? Bankers? Realtors? GSE's? All those are problems, because they are often governed by greed and power. (I'm not saying that to disparage anybody, as it's simple fact in those industries and I came from the banking world).

To unite would require the collective to push an agenda by threat of a strike to stall the system. Do appraisers have that power in this environment? Probably not because greed and power demands more production and we would see the mechanism ignore our role just as it did often during the pandemic.

The appraisal profession, in my view, is one of the very few entities in existence that requires help from oversight to exist simply because of our nature. For instance, the HVCC was a pain in our behind, but it actually cured a problem of independence that was being thwarted between the banker and the appraiser. GSE's would slice us out of existence overnight if they were able, but they can't as of yet, so they constantly try to find ways to do things without us. Bankers only care about getting the deal done and pocketing the servicing fees. Realtors want the commission without interference or delay. Borrowers want to buy, and sellers want to sell. The independent appraiser is in the middle being sure the numbers make sense without bias, while many are often hammering us. It's a shame really because we are needed more than some might think.

Oversight has helped us exist, not a union or even an association.
I heard you know Mr. Orman well. Most licensed appraisers in TN know him if they have been the business a long time.

I don't think striking would help like a union, however a union would allow members to elect very professional and independent leaders.

Different appraisal organizations didn't want to unite.

Being too small to push back very hard is true, but it would allow effective leaders to be elected in order to lobby with congress.

All professions are united nationally on some type of national platform. They are all state, or smaller geo regulated by government. Appraisers are an exception.

Yes, without us, all kinds of abusive lending practices would exist for the public. The same stands true without State and federal lending regulators.

It could get so bad that the whole national economy fails. Realtors have a national representative (NAR). I can't think of another profession that does not have a national presence with Congress that represents independent fee appraisers.

I don't have a problem with amcss. I just don't like commingling of fees. It changed the whole market structure of the profession. I would have no problem with AMC collecting their fee from borrower, lender, GSE etc.

I just want the fees separated on truth in lending disclosures.
 
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BTW, how is a waiver disclosed on truth in lending disclosures?
 
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