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Do Chase complaints have merit?

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Brian Weaver

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I get this question a lot. The answer is: Yes & No.
In short...the lowest value between an original report and a second report completed days later...is the winner. That seems to be the common thread amongst all of my Chase complaints.
If they send in a review with a lower value...then that's the winner.
I've never received a Chase complaint where the original value was lower than the second appraisal/review. Never.
Does Chase document USPAP violations...um...yes...and no. They send out form letters and attach the rebuttal report or a field review and rely on those documents to "speak for themselves". Unfortunately, a rebuttal appraisal is just a different opinion of value. It never speaks to the first report. Why would it? The second appraiser is just doing...an appraisal. Not a review or an investigation of the first report. They don't even know a prior report exists.
Can I charge them $1,000? Not so much.
Can I close them without looking at them? Not so much.
Are ALL the Chase complaints bad? Not at all. Sadly, they're biggest complaint is about the number. As a regulator...my biggest problem isn't the number...but how one GOT to a number. Whatever the number.
Do some appraisers deserve to be made "ineligible" by Chase. Sure. I see junk reports all day long.
Here's what I see:
Some appraisers can't cobble a coherent sentence together...so they can't explain what they've done. So Chase bumps them.
Some appraisers couldn't do the Cost Approach with a gun to their head...so Chase bumps them.
Some appraisers chronically ignore easily accessed info...zoning...lot dimensions...neighborhood names...so Chase bumps them.
Are all of these things "death squad-worthy" USPAP violations? Probably not...individually...but collectively...the appraiser looks like a lazy boob.
However...there are cases that I've closed where the original report was adequately documented. The correspondence between Chase and the appraiser seemed reasonable...but Chase still bumped them...because...um...I don't really know why they bumped them. They just did.
What irks me is this "shoot first; ask questions later...then shoot them again" attitude regarding placing appraisers on their ineligible list. But...there's nothing I can do about that. Chase doesn't care what I think about the cases I process. They don't seem too impressed about what our Board thinks, either. So...they can blacklist all 90,000 appraisers if they want. That's a business decision that has nothing to do with the state and regulation. I just press on...wade through the avalanche of both the sublime...and the ridiculous.
 
....Mr. Weaver....thanks for your input here on the Forum.....best to you.....rs
 
How many of them were performed for Quantrix?
 
Very few were Quantrix related. Many of the complaints come from 2006 and 2007. Chase ended up with crummy loans from other sources. Many were from small MBs from all over the country.
 
Thank you Mr. Weaver for being an extremely reasonable and capable state board member.
 
Thank you Mr. Weaver for being an extremely reasonable and capable state board member.

Ditto and don't forget to include funny and handsome.:blush:
 
Great answer! I'd give you CE for that...if I could!
 
When you say Chase's biggest complaint is about the number, do you mean the number was too high or low? Your post suggests Chase feels the number is too high an inordinate percentage of the time.

These days, any lender worth its "salt" (interpret that to mean, "interested in flying under HVCC and national regulator "radar"") wants a reasonably-supported valuaton. Anyone working at these outfits are waking during the night, worrying about their job security. The last thing they want is to stick their things out to get whacked. My best guess is, given the continued "glut" of appraisers, these outfits are trying their best to "clean house" and distance themselves from some of the fly-by-night appraisers who recently drew the spotlight to them.

Personally, based on a LOT of reviews...Chase isn't doing HALF enough to blacklist appraisers. Call them liars, cheats, scoundrels, whatever you want. These are not appraisers. These are not honest people.
 
The NC Appraisal Board says that they are receiving a lot of complaints from Chase, but many of the reviews are worse than the appraisals. Since they are allowed to open investigations on their own, they say that they have begun many investigations into the reviewers.
 
The NC Appraisal Board says that they are receiving a lot of complaints from Chase, but many of the reviews are worse than the appraisals. Since they are allowed to open investigations on their own, they say that they have begun many investigations into the reviewers.

As they should. I successfully rebutted a bad review for an FHA appraisal last year (not for Chase). The review appraiser's name was removed so I have no clue who the idiot was who missed relevant data and erroneously concluded that my value was overstated. If I had a name he/she would have been turned into the state along with their mistakes.
 
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