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From The Appraisal of Real Estate (and I quote): Extraction is a method of estimating land value in which the depreciated cost of the improvements on the improved property is estimated and deducted from the total sales price to arrive at an estimated sale price for the land." Praytell, Joe, tell me what you've been misled to believe extraction is?
The extraction method is not appropriate when you have a dataset of one and it is the subject. You use the extraction method within your comparable data set to arrive at an estimated range of extracted land values.
 
The extraction method is not appropriate when you have a dataset of one and it is the subject. You use the extraction method within your comparable data set to arrive at an estimated range of extracted land values.
I'm just not understanding where you're getting your information? Again, from The Appraisal of Real Estate, allocation is, "A ratio of land value to property value extracted from comparable sales and applied to the sales price of the subject property to arrive at the land value." The text very specifically addresses 'multiple comparables' when describing allocation. When describing extraction, however, it very specifically says, "an improved property" (meaning one property)... IF you agree that The Appraisal of Real Estate is somewhat akin to the appraiser's bible, then wouldn't it have said, "land value is extracted from the sales prices of multiple comparables"? You're making this too difficult, guys...
 
I'm just not understanding where you're getting your information? Again, from The Appraisal of Real Estate, allocation is, "A ratio of land value to property value extracted from comparable sales and applied to the sales price of the subject property to arrive at the land value." The text very specifically addresses 'multiple comparables' when describing allocation. When describing extraction, however, it very specifically says, "an improved property" (meaning one property)... IF you agree that The Appraisal of Real Estate is somewhat akin to the appraiser's bible, then wouldn't it have said, "land value is extracted from the sales prices of multiple comparables"? You're making this too difficult, guys...
Nope sorry. Same concept as using 1 comp for a sales approach...only worse cause the 1 comp is the subject. Multiple residuals should be presented as support not just the "backed into" subject's residual.
 
Nope sorry. Same concept as using 1 comp for a sales approach...only worse cause the 1 comp is the subject. Multiple residuals should be presented as support not just the "backed into" subject's residual.

So I've now heard that I'm wrong from three different folks, yet not one has offered any documentation for your opinion. I am ALWAYS willing to admit that I'm the one who has been misled (by a textbook no less), but I would sincerely appreciate it if you, Joe Flacco, or NP_MAI could point me to any documentation at all that supports your opinion(s)...
 
So I've now heard that I'm wrong from three different folks, yet not one has offered any documentation for your opinion. I am ALWAYS willing to admit that I'm the one who has been misled (by a textbook no less), but I would sincerely appreciate it if you, Joe Flacco, or NP_MAI could point me to any documentation at all that supports your opinion(s)...
It's there and has been presented. More entertaining to keep fighting it (for us).
I'm not sure how else to explain it. A single indicator is generally not considered adequate support no matter if the book uses plurals or not.
Seriously tho it's a great thread and people learn from these. Thanks for debating it.
 
It's there and has been presented. More entertaining to keep fighting it tho (for us). Seriously tho it's a great thread and people learn from these. Thanks for debating it.
lol - agreed that healthy debate generates the desire to learn more. However, to your point - exactly where is it hiding?... in my 30 years, I've yet to see one credible source cite extraction as HAVING to have multiple observations. Of course the more observations you research, the stronger your opinion will be. My only point was that, according to The Appraisal of Real Estate, only one property is required. I'm really sorry, but opinions are trumped by documentation...
 
Using only the subject to extract the depreciated cost to get the land value indication does not work because because it is only one indication and could be anything. If it's a sale then it's telling you what one person is willing to pay. If it's a refi or something, then there isn't even that. If you're using your own opinion of value, then there is not support for anything.

The extraction example in The Appraisal of Real Estate uses 4 sales, none of which are the subject.
 
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