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Fannie's Own Statement About Waiver /value Acceptance;

See post 464, I sure as heck am!

You are reading the cash as only the equivalent aspect. BTW, a sale is all cash to the seller at closing, whether financing was used or not.

The cash adjustment is for when the cash affected the price, as explained. A seller might sell low because of a fast closing or the certainty a cash sale represents. That is apart from the cash equivalency aspect. A buyer with deep pockets can overpay using cash due to no appraisal or because the buyer is not limited to more typical budget constraints. That has nothing to do with the cash equivalency aspect.

Spec home builders and property flippers often pay cash due to lending issues with homes needing repair, or to get a quick sale price from an owner.
I know that you cannot even imagine how silly post 464 actually makes you look. Why don't you click on the link that was provided by to you by AI in the answer you posted in in post 464 and see if the link actually says what AI states that it says.

BTW, you are not the only person AI has made look silly........people really need to stop blindly using AI as a source without doing at least some verification of the information returned by AI.
 
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When the WAIVERS are granted to the better credit/higher down payment borrowers and to the more conforming properties, and the appraisals are done on the lower-FICO-score borrowers and problem-child properties, then it would stand to reason that the waiver loans would perform better with respect to default or delinquency.

Nearly every property that I have appraised over the past six months has been a problem or difficult property. There are fewer normal properties going to the appraiser now.
And those properties didn't get waivers more evidence that the odd balls and complex ones go to experienced boots on the ground appraisers like yourself. The easy ones don't require your services.
 
Congratulations, you found some AI nonsense in which the AI response is completely and utterly wrong and posted it like it is the gospel truth.

Did you bother to click on the link provided by AI that supposedly is the source for what AI is telling you about cash adjustments to check the veracity of what it stated? Per your post AI stated "Yes — appraisers can and often do adjust for cash sales, but only when the sale terms differ from normal market conditions and the adjustment is supported by market evidence." and "Unusual condition: If the cash sale price is higher (or lower) than what a comparable financed sale would have brought, the appraiser may adjust the cash sale price toward what it would have been under normal financing terms" and then AI provides a link to McKissock Learning as the source for these statements.

I clicked on the link to Mckissock provide by AI, and not surprisingly the McKissock web page referenced by AI makes none of the statements attributed to it by AI and nothing on the McKissock web page referenced by AI could reasonably be interpreted to support the statements made by AI regarding adjsuting for cash sales.

It is really quite amazing how often and how willing many people are just willing to accept whatever answer AI posts without bothering to vet whether the answer is really true or not.
Appraisers adjust for cash sales when the use of cash affected the price, as explained. That is, apart from making a cash equivalence adjustment.
 
It is very easy to assess loan performance controlling for FICO and other loan and borrower attributes, and the data shows unequivocally, that even when controlling for all other loan and borrower attributes, loan performance for loans originated with waivers is actually slightly better than it is for loans with appraisals.
Once again, loan performance is out of the appraiser's control.

That aside, WAIVERS are granted to the better buyers with stronger credit scores and more down payment. It is fitting that those loans would perform better wrt the borrower obligation.
 
The fact is that an appraisal was performed. In a waiver, no appraisal was performed; therefore, some prices might occur that might not have occurred with an appraisal.
USPAP mandates transparency as a core component of professional integrity, requiring appraisers to conduct themselves with full transparency in how they develop and communicate valuation conclusions. This standard is enforced through specific rules that demand clear, accurate, and conspicuous disclosures of all assumptions, hypothetical conditions, and limiting conditions to ensure reports are not misleading.

But that only applies to appraisers. Once again, it's the rules for thee and not for me.....

The waiver (value acceptance) is a proprietary, closed-loop transaction. Lenders and the GSEs do not necessarily want the "you" to easily track when they are taking on higher automated risk.....GSEs are treating their AVMs and risk-scoring algorithms as highly guarded trade secrets.

This is all about transparency.

If the evidence of value acceptance ultimately shows no material difference, that would support treating those sales no differently. But that conclusion should follow from transparent data and analysis, not from the absence of a field that would allow the analysis to be performed.

Since this is not going to happen J, throw in the towel on this one....
 
That aside, WAIVERS are granted to the better buyers with stronger credit scores and more down payment. It is fitting that those loans would perform better wrt the borrower obligation.
What part of "after controlling for credit scores and other borrower and loan attributes, loans with appraisal waivers perform slightly better than loans with appraisals" do you fail to understnad?
 
Cash sales aren't adjusted basic appraisal 101 uses the label cash equivalency as the baseline for how real estate that's financed with a mortgage is appraised.
 
to increase the current $400,000 residential appraisal threshold to $650,000,
Demins rising again? You know, we would not care much about any of this, if the GSE's were not gambling with the backstop of the American taxpayer. Stupidest financial decision making approach possible.

This waivers thing is shaping up exactly as expected. Consumers have no idea where they are at. Professional valuation services are sidelined in favor of automation. Black box proprietary avm algorithms nobody knows anything about.

For the record, lenders push the avm. Don't worry about integrity of the program, according to the AVM FINAL RULE which allows this activity, the avm's will automatically adjust for racial disparities in valuation, and the lender will self certify the avm is just as good as a human full service appraiser, with a bi annual two page avm self certification paperwork deal. No outside auditing or forensic review of process, protocol, or coding is required. The AVM rule is the quintessential gift of all gifts to the lending industry. The PAVE task force is how they justified pushing the AVM rule. People have no idea how coordinated this all was.

Anyone whom believes the lenders will not manipulate their internally controlled avm coding to push higher loan volume needs committed to a psychiatric institution immediately. Institutional memory problems much? We have officially entered another bubble bust predatory mortgage lending cycle, risk remains for the most part, unabated. The fallacy that lenders are being responsible with risk management when they're originating on fractional reserve basis, often required to have less than 15% origination collateral.

Former FHFA director warned of this a while back. Image.
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Other appraisers called this one ahead of time. FNMA to the state of Maryland; Drop Dead.

To all the appraisers here pontificating and imagining mortgage fraud is not reaching record level highs once again, that all of this is all good. Go ahead, ignore the evidence. Live in a bubble. There is nothing any of us can do about this anyways.

One appraiser on the blogs put forth a really interesting summary of the past two decades, worth the time to read.

Great post NC, great post.

The entertainment value here is remarkable. That escalated quickly.

This is so much better than a uniform standard to risk approach, where everyone gets a full appraisal, regardless of loan amount, and all appraisals were the same, industry wide, the same format followed for GSE work as all through the rest of the valuation need spectrum far outside of lending.

I think most people arguing in favor of the waiver program have not taken the time to read the AVM final rule. Flew right under the radar for most people, especially appraisers, whom were back on their heels fighting back against fictitious notions of valuation bias via the PAVE task force. All the big companies whom supported the valuation bias narrative got everything they wanted. They have now cornered the valuation services market for gse work and are capitalizing immediately. Brand new unprecedented access to monetize consumer data, proprietary appraiser work products, etc. They're right now shuffling all this overly granular detail for what should be GLB protected consumer data around the world and back, before a hybrid request or avm utility use is even finalized.
https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...trol-standards-for-automated-valuation-models

Pay attention because this is the neat part; Disparate valuation impact theory is cooked into every single part of this. The helicopter home argument. The homes should have equalized fair value in compliance with non discrimination laws, and avm algorithms can and will be adjusted to accommodate this. / They fought to force appraisers to apply this but the rules of the profession and ethics in general, long established standard practices of the valuation industry obviously prevented dishonest manipulation of valuation. That is why the alternative approach of utilizing AVM's with an expanded waiver program was kicked into high gear. Every single wish list of the PAVE task force has been fulfilled by the waiver program. The DEI is now firmly entrenched on a permanent basis into the mortgage lending process. From code to qualification to real world implementation, a social credit scoring program is now in place. Keyword for above document; Disparate.

Has anyone bothered to read the patents of what related automated loan approval software actually looks like? Proponents of waivers may want to take a look at that. All the big players have something just like this. Google patent research is an endless time sink. The history of patent approval, trading, and progression is what is telling. They've all worked on this for many many years. When TAF proposed the USPAP certified avm, that did not work so well, was rejected. Then came PAVE slander, the excuse to justify a total retooling of the industry. Then came the avm final rule. Now comes a further demins raise, right on time.
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Scroll down quite far, read the borrower cluster identification types. Which type of borrower are you? FICO scores take a back seat to the identity grounded risk based analysis. Socialism in lending. It will not matter if you are personally responsible, if you cluster up near other groups of people whom have poor scoring, you're in the exact same boat as them. Debt traps for everyone!

Class has these as well. They all do. Methods for automatically translating real estate descriptions.
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Where avm tech started. It's in all the appraisal software now.

Remote real estate inspection tech. Likely with AMC's involved. Imagine that. This is where the 12 billion of junk fee skimming went. To put everyone here out of a job.

FNC incorporated scoring a real estate appraisal. Ever heard of that one? Probably you have.
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Skim some of it yourself, there is oh so much.
https://patents.google.com/?q=(FNMA)&oq=(FNMA)

Appraisers on here arguing the minutia of it all. You're all missing the big picture. Take a closer look at the tech you're actually working with, and working under.

This is fun. Bored house wives whom do gig work like being a mystery shopper, pop up inventory scanning, and door dash, they are coordinating online how to get more PDC inspection work for lending. The temporary employment firms are all over this one. Totally a better approach than having a qualified licensed well vetted licensed professional real estate appraiser inspect those homes. Because; Too many white folk and appraisers sometimes omitted information about homes they did not feel is relevant. Imagine being someone actually trying to refinance and then dealing with a work visa migrant whom barely speaks english or some sycophant house wife walking into your home and running a 3d imaging scan of all your belongings, in every single room of your home.
https://appraisersblogs.com/property-valuation-and-the-future-of-data-collection/#comment-46843

Guess what happens next. You don't need to because it's clear as day. You're frigging done. The end of the line is near for everyone. This will not stop at mortgage lending. We warned you for the past two decades that if we did not protect manual process in GSE appraisal, everyone else would be effected down the line. Now the big appraisal franchise firms are doing exactly what the rules prescribe as requiring AMC licensing for, maintaining large panels, doling out orders, managing payments, multi state footprints. But they don't even bother to have an AMC license. What a trick eh? Brand yourself a valuation tech firm or an appraisal firm; no AMC licensing is imposed. They're now branching into legal, estate, government, and soon commercial. You're all done. And that's what most deserve for failing to stand up for the human value of manual detailed orientated process and place consumer protection and consumer privacy as the utmost priority. It's over, most people here simply don't posses the intellectual capacity or advanced research ability to reconcile all this data. You're all cooked! At this point the disclosure is simply an ongoing stream of whistleblower activity because the markets will crash, and the regulations and rules will eventually be rewritten again. We have entered the exploitative phase of the advanced technological infrastructure. Up until this point in time, was the build up, development, and slow incremental implementation. Now everything is in place and lined up. The systems just went live.

Last one out, please don't forget to turn off the lights.
 
Appraisers adjust for cash sales when the use of cash affected the price, as explained. That is, apart from making a cash equivalence adjustment.
Stop with the lies....nowhere on the McKissock web page that AI cites as the source for that conclusion does it say or even imply that an adjustment for cash sales is appropriate. Rather, here is what the referenced McKissock webpage actually states about adjusting for conditions of the sale"

Transactional Adjustments​

Transactional adjustments account for factors related to the conditions of a sale rather than the physical characteristics of the property, such as financing terms, conditions of sale (such as a distressed sale), and the motivations of the buyer and seller.

These adjustments aim to reflect what the property would have sold for under normal, arm’s-length conditions.


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