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FDIC/OTS hiring old staff out of retirement

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JCONNOR3

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I had a discussion today with a banker buddy who informed me that FDIC/OTS and other regulatory agencies are bringing back retired staff to oversee the coming tsunami of bad loans etc.

Apparently they need some grey hair to even implement the new programs they are dredging up from the archives. Recall that these are people who believe in boots on the ground and not some hack broker either. I would suggest that some of the old ways will be resurrected and this may well mean a resurgence in doin' it the old fashioned way with real appraisers.

We ain't dead yet. A system that worked for 80 years was flushed down the drain and this is what they got. It will not go un-noted nor ignored. If we can just hang on there is a good chance that like all systems the old tried and true may be back in some form or another. I think we will be back baby!
 
I heard a few months ago they were bringing back people with RTC experience, which is a good idea.
 
If these people were so great at regulating banks in the first place, we would not be in this mess.......just great, the same guys who were asleep on the job while this mess built up over the years will now likely get to collect big consulting fees far in excess of their former salaries in addition to their fat government pensions......this is usually what happens when the gov't has to "hire" back people....it is called double-dipping.
 
my recolection was they were brought in to "salvage" what others screwed up in the first place. Due to the Large Mess that was created over the past 5 years, these would be the ideal folk to bring back - it's called "experience", of course ifn yer idea is to bring some "inexperienced" slackers that won't figure it out, they'll just up Your Taxes due to the delay in being able to resolve the matter for another 10 years.

I'd go for the "experience" group
 
If these people were so great at regulating banks in the first place, we would not be in this mess.......just great, the same guys who were asleep on the job while this mess built up over the years will now likely get to collect big consulting fees far in excess of their former salaries in addition to their fat government pensions......this is usually what happens when the gov't has to "hire" back people....it is called double-dipping.

This was the clean up crew. They only worked on resolving the problem of dealing with the assets.
 
This was the clean up crew. They only worked on resolving the problem of dealing with the assets.

Post #1 mentioned nothing about bring back retired RTC workers, but referred to retired employees of the FDIC/OTS. If they are bringing back competent people to clean up the coming mess, I am all for that, but, forgive me if I am just more than a little cynical that any agency run by the federal government will perform in a competent manner and protect the interests of the taxpayer.....I hope that my cynicism is proven wrong.
 
timid354
a banker buddy who informed me that FDIC/OTS and other regulatory agencies


hmmmmm.......unless your reading somethin I'm not
 
I agree that the guvmint is not the best organizer but having been in the Marine Corps I can only say that the Gmen aren't bad in a total crisis, and we have one here. Older,greyer, and more level heads prevail in such situations. The greedy pups are on the way out. This bodes well for reality based people and adherence to the standards that got us through about 80 years.

Being a fairly reactionary animal the guvmint ususally opts for knowns in a crisis for political reasons if nothing else. The Gmen like appraisers and appraisals. We were spawned due to the "Great Depression". The bankers hate us and want our money. They had their way with us for some years now and that will lessen as they are hauled before congress and then out to the woodshed for a proper asswhoopin. Greed and lack of objectivity drove this train and that my friends, while everpresent, will be lessened for a considerable period of time.

Incredulousness is healthy but synicism has no place in the face of this national nightmare. It is our job to show a cohesive and unbending adherence to what we all have signed on for. We want nothing more than an opportunity to do the job for which we have been trained and at a fair wage. We guard the vaults. We protect this country and it's systems. Pompous statement? I don't think so. It is reality. We keep the crooks from taking advantage of the system. Historically the lenders used us to protect their money, not some fee driven scheme.

Well the game ball has been taken from the field. It is back to basics. Bankers lending their money and being scrutinized as never before. They will hire us to protect their jobs if nothing more. As my old boss used to say, "lawyers and such go through the front door, and we go in the side door but we are invited to the party in any event."

As I see it playing out once the smoke clears we will be used as never before. We will be subjected to scrutiny yes, but everyone will want someone to take the beat down if one is to occur and that has always been our job until recently. An old MAI once told me when I asked him what appraising was really about, he said, " it is getting to the number, signing it and having the guts to defend it."

I have never experience the environment we are in but having been in this business for a very long time I know one immutable fact. Every time we reach a critical point in the cycle more opportunities come from it for the appraisal community just as it does for general real estate. It is a natural purging. You can depend on a few things in this business. Greed, various attempts to circumvent the system, and people being people trying to make a quick buck.

We handle a very static part of the system. Illiquid and as such it is not easily convertable to cash. Natural rules prevail and no technology or creative vehicle exists that can transmute the rules. You can bend them for awhile (leverage) but in the end they will bite your tail off. The lenders are bobtailed for quite awhile.

The next few years will form an indelible scar on this country IMHO and one which will not be soon forgotten. As we all know everyone is an expert on real estate when it is going up. Not so easy to call on the re-entry phase. The appraisal world is skipping off the atmosphere now. Getting back to earth takes time. This is the doldrums while the system is in flux. Been here, done this. But when we get back to business, and we will, be prepared for it.(survive this time) We have a lot to do and believe me we are in for a lot pain but more calls will come and more questions along with it. Get the number, sign it and be ready to stand behind it. We will be tested again.
 
I heard a few months ago they were bringing back people with RTC experience, which is a good idea.

Maybe they will resurrect the RTC?

Hope so. I made a lot of money doing work for them.
 
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