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FHA appraisal - broken sewer pipe

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@RSW,

I think you are misunderstanding the protocol. The only time you do an as-is appraisal for a property that has $5000 or more in repairs is an REO/PFS property. The $5000 is in reference to the Insurability/Escrow statement specifically for REO properties. FHA appraisers do not make the same "escrow" statements for FHA purchases, refinance, etc. That is what the old handbook says. 4000.1 on the other hand increased that amount to $10,000, but again that only pertains to REO properties.

If it is for a purchase or refinance any deficiency that does not meet FHA MPR/MPS will require repair regardless if it costs $50, $5000 or $10,000 plus - unless a property is rejected. Properties that are rejected are typically homes that are affected by extreme conditions (example) ... sites where the soil and the home are contaminated with nuclear waste or homes in need of so many repairs that the economic life expectancy would be less that the life of a 30 year mortgage.

Neither of these things sound like what the OP described. The pipes will have to be repaired before the lender can secure an FHA loan. It does not matter who repairs it, as long as it gets repaired before closing so the appraisal will have to be done as-repaired as I suspected. Like I said, the listing agent should have known this would not have pased FHA. Quite frankly, OP should have known this would not pass FHA requirements. Would have saved a lot of headache and extra work.
You always do HUD REOs AS IS. That I know. I am going to find the reference in the old material when I get the chance. If you will see in the post I posted from the 4000.1, It says "The property is being recommended for rejection. That same working was in the revised appendix D in the 4150.2.

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It says nothing there about it being an REO appraisal. There are 5 situations where an AS IS appraisal can be done. You need to read a little better.
 
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I can read just fine. I am not disputing that an as-is appraisal can be done. It seemed to me that OP's situation was not one of them. I personally would not complete the appraisal "as-is" knowing the property does not meet FHA MPR.

My initial response to you was in confusion of the statement you made here ...
Any repairs over $5,000 will require an As Is appraisal and recommend the property be rejected. It would then qualify for the 203k program.
Show me in the current handbook where it says repairs over $5000 will require an As-Is appraisal and I will believe you. As a matter of fact, if it does say that then I think I will just quit doing FHA altogether.
 
Did I mention I hate FHA threads.
 
Ok, I may have mis-spoke about the $5,000 figure. Here is what is in the Homeownership Center Reference Guide:

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I have always used the $5,000 figure since it is the minimum for a 203k loan.

I have never had a problem with that when doing FHA Appraisals.
 

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Update - This turned into an FHA 203 loan - new assignment as they wanted a value with some additional renovations that were to be completed in addition to the sewer pipe.
 
Update - This turned into an FHA 203 loan - new assignment as they wanted a value with some additional renovations that were to be completed in addition to the sewer pipe.
Looks like my posts were correct.
 
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