• Welcome to AppraisersForum.com, the premier online  community for the discussion of real estate appraisal. Register a free account to be able to post and unlock additional forums and features.

FHA - Garage Conversion

Status
Not open for further replies.

Chase UW

Freshman Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2013
Professional Status
General Public
State
Florida
Hello, I am an UW and have the following question. Does FHA allow a non-permitted garage conversion?

The customer converted a garage into a living area without permits. The appraiser is stating that the work was completed in a workmanlike manner, Can the appraiser give this area value? Does this area have to have a permanent heat source if there is a bedroom if he is giving it value? Would it be considered a health and safety issue without it?
 
The Appraiser must treat room additions and garage conversions as part of the GLA of the dwelling, provided that the addition or conversion space:
• is accessible from the interior of the main dwelling in a functional manner;
• has a permanent and sufficient heat source; and
• was built in keeping with the design, appeal, and quality of construction of the main dwelling.

From the 4000.1 HUD Handbook

Room additions and garage conversions that do not meet the criteria listed above are to be addressed as a separate line item in the sales grid, not in the GLA. The appraiser must address the impact of inferior quality garage conversions and room additions on marketability as well as Contributory Value, if any. The appraiser must analyze and report differences in functional utility when selecting comparable properties of similar total GLA that do not include converted living space. If the Appraiser chooses to include converted living spaces as GLA, the Appraiser must include an explanation detailing the composition of the GLA reported for the comparable sales, functional utility of the subject and comparable properties, and market reaction. Alternatively, the Appraiser may consider and analyze converted living spaces on a separate line within the sales comparison grid including the functional utility line in order to demonstrate market reaction.
 
https://www.HUD.gov/sites/documents/40001HSGH.PDF

ii. Appraisal Conditions Definition Appraisal Conditions refer to anything the Appraiser requires to occur or be known before the value of conclusion can be considered valid. Standard Conclusions about the observed conditions of the Property provide the rationale for the opinion of Market Value. The completed appraisal form, together with the required exhibits, constitutes the reporting instrument for FHA-insured Mortgages. Conditions of the Property, mortgage type and the market will determine if the appraisal is to be performed as-is, or if the value opinion needs to be conditioned upon an extraordinary assumption(s), a hypothetical condition(s), subject to an additional inspection, or completion of construction, repairs or alterations.

upload_2017-12-6_10-52-56.png

Pg 526 (3) Required Analysis and Reporting If the appraisal has no conditions, the Appraiser must render an as-is value opinion.

If the Appraiser must conclude the report under a hypothetical condition or extraordinary assumption, the Appraiser must report the issues and requirements as one of the following:
• “subject to completion per plans and specifications on the basis of a hypothetical condition that the improvements have been completed;”
• “subject to the following repairs or alterations (list them) on the basis of a hypothetical condition that the repairs or alterations have been completed;”
or • “subject to a required inspection based on the extraordinary assumption that the condition or deficiency does not require alteration or repair.”
 
Last edited:
 Additions and Converted Space o Room additions and garage conversions are encountered frequently in the practice of residential appraisal. In general, HUD wants the Appraiser to treat them as part of the GLA — with some stipulations. B. Handbook 4000.1 confirms that “[t]he Appraiser must treat room additions and garage conversions as part of the GLA of the dwelling, provided that the addition or conversion space: ƒ. is accessible from the interior of the main dwelling in a functional manner; ƒ. has a permanent and sufficient heat source; and ƒ. was built in keeping with the design, appeal, and quality of construction of the main dwelling.” (Sec. II.B.3.d.iii)

https://www.appraisalinstitute.org/assets/1/29/Handbook_examples.pdf
 
Doing an FHA appraisal in California and the subject has an evaporative cooling system (http://smarterhouse.org/cooling-systems/types-cooling-systems). Does anyone know if FHA will have an issue with this type of cooling system?

I am an UW and have a question in regards to deferred maintenance in regards to the siding of the home.
Should the report have been "subject to" for the exposed wood. It does appear to be minor in nature but I was wondering if any exposed wood should be addressed.

I am an UW and have a question regarding a home that is full of clutter.
The appraiser states "the home was found to be cluttered with a large amount of personal property but no physical or functional inadequacies".

I am an UW and I am reviewing a condo appraisal. Three of the 4 sales provided are townhomes and not condos. I am assuming that this is a different type of ownership and the report should only include condo sales.

I am an UW and sometimes I see attached duplexes being compared to 2 on a lot. I realize that sometimes this is what is required due to limited sales but what should I be looking for in the report when this is being done? Any tips you can give an UW?

Do the agencies have any issues with this type of roof?

Hello, I am an UW and have the following question. Does FHA allow a non-permitted garage conversion?

I am once again wondering, as an Underwriter, at what point your employer actually trains you to do your job? If there are issues for which YOU might be unaware I would imagine that somewhere in the vast resources of your company that originates FHA loans that someone there would have the answer to your question. Or is that such an unreasonable assumption? Do you not have access to the exact same appraisal guidelines for FHA that appraisers use?
 
I am once again wondering, as an Underwriter, at what point your employer actually trains you to do your job? If there are issues for which YOU might be unaware I would imagine that somewhere in the vast resources of your company that originates FHA loans that someone there would have the answer to your question. Or is that such an unreasonable assumption? Do you not have access to the exact same appraisal guidelines for FHA that appraisers use?

As a reviewer for a bank (though not an underwriter), I have often wonder why this poster has repeatedly asked underwriting questions on an appraiser's forum instead of consulting their company's policies and procedures, FHA or Fannie/Freddie guidelines, or simply asking their boss. It is also worrying that they are underwriting FHA loans. At least where I work, FHA underwriters are well seasoned conventional loan underwriters first. I feel bank reviewers already have a poor enough reputation on this site without added fuel to the flame.
 
Mike must have 4000.1 on his IPad and indexed to topics...:LOL: But always right. Heat; check, access/egress, check, similar work quality, check
permits what are those? Not our SOW to find/obtain/verify/attach etc. just stating the facts ma'm.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Find a Real Estate Appraiser - Enter Zip Code

Copyright © 2000-, AppraisersForum.com, All Rights Reserved
AppraisersForum.com is proudly hosted by the folks at
AppraiserSites.com
Back
Top