• Welcome to AppraisersForum.com, the premier online  community for the discussion of real estate appraisal. Register a free account to be able to post and unlock additional forums and features.

FHA requirments

Status
Not open for further replies.

SDfarmboy

Freshman Member
Joined
Feb 9, 2018
Professional Status
General Public
State
South Dakota
How do you typically address the inspection "observation" requirements on the standard 1004 form? I do have a one page addendum in my alamode software that one can record the estimated cost of repairs. This one page addendum break down into 5 sections. Structural, Mech, Elec, HVAC and Paint. Could I us this to identify issue and non issues. I just upgraded my license and can now per form FHA. Thanks in advance.
 
on the 1004 form in the Physical Deficiencies Adverse Conditions section i say:
"The property will meet HUD's Minimum Property Requirements as outlined in the FHA Single Family Policy Handbook 4000.1 when repairs are completed.
See attached Property Acceptability Criteria Report."

then use a single page supplemental addendum page and title it Property Acceptability Criteria Report

here i copy and paste the reference from the 4000.1
- under that i explain what i observed, the recommended repair, and cost to cure
 
How do you typically address the inspection "observation" requirements on the standard 1004 form? I do have a one page addendum in my alamode software that one can record the estimated cost of repairs. This one page addendum break down into 5 sections. Structural, Mech, Elec, HVAC and Paint. Could I us this to identify issue and non issues. I just upgraded my license and can now per form FHA. Thanks in advance.


It should be noted that the term "inspection" as it relates to the services performed by an appraiser, are merely observations. Any time the word inspection is used in this report it generally means "observation". The appraiser's observations should in no way be construed as anything more than a visual impression of the systems performance that can be carried out by any party without the benefit of specific training or knowledge. The appraiser's visit to the site should not be construed as a Home Inspection. As with the purchase of any real property, a complete home inspection by a qualified home inspector is strongly recommended.

Appliances Considered Real Property (Conveyed): Range/Oven, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, water heater, HVAC. All appear operational.

Utilities: At the time of observation, utilities were on and a representative sample of plumbing, electrical, and heating systems were tested and appeared to be working properly.

Electrical System: During the site visit the property was observed for frayed or exposed wires, however this does not mean that there are not frayed or exposed wires that are hidden from sight behind cover plates, in walls, or other areas obscured from plain sight. A sample of the switches, light fixtures, and receptacles were operated and found to be functional. The wiring was not tested for proper polarity, wire size, or grounding, as that should be left to a qualified professional. The appraiser is not an expert in electrical systems or related issues. There was a cover plate missing from the light switch in the room over the garage.

Plumbing System: The plumbing system was tested by flushing toilets and operating a sample of the sink faucets. They appear to be functioning, however problems with waste water piping are not generally revealed through this sort of operation and if present, typically would not manifest themselves unless the plumbing is operated through the normal course of occupancy. The water heater does not have a temperature-pressure relief valve down tube installed. The appraiser is not an expert in plumbing systems or related issues.

Heating and Cooling Systems: The subject has a central air heating/cooling system. The system was operated in order to observe the systems performance. The cooling system was operating, but it is not possible to know if the system is operating as intended due to the low outside air temperature. Furthermore, simply operating the furnace would not reveal the possibility of a cracked heat exchanger or fire box, which if cracked would likely allow carbon monoxide to enter the dwelling. The appraiser is not qualified to make such determinations. If any interested party is concerned about the possibility of any dangerous condition regarding the air conditioning system, then further investigation by a qualified HVAC professional is suggested. The heating portion of the system was on in the dwelling and appears to be functioning. The appraiser is not an expert in Mechanical Systems or related issues.

Roof Covering: The roof covering is intact however portions of the roof are not visible from the ground . The appraiser did not go on the roof. No obvious signs of moisture penetration are apparent through casual observation. The roof appears to have adequate remaining life expectancy however the appraiser is not qualified to make any determinations regarding the actual life expectancy of the roofing system. Roof systems can have hidden defects that may not manifest themselves until they are subjected to heavy rains. The Chesapeake area may not experience heavy rain for months at a time. A qualified roof professional could make better determinations regarding the integrity of the roof.

Defective Paint: The subject was no built prior to 1978.

Crawl Space: A limited head and shoulders observation of the crawl space was made from the scuttle opening. Access through the opening is limited as there is low clearance in the crawl space, so the appraiser was not able to fully enter the space. A head and shoulders observation from the scuttle opening was performed.

Attic: A limited head and shoulders observation from the scuttle was performed. No adverse conditions were noted but observation of the entire attic was not possible from the scuttle.

Connection to Public Water/Sewer System: The subject property's water and sewer is connected to the city water and sewage supply system. The water system is supplied and maintained by the Department of Public Utilities. The sewage system is supplied and maintained by Hampton Roads Sanitation District (HRSD).

Hazards: The property was free of all known hazards and adverse conditions that:

May affect the health and safety of the occupants
May affect the structural soundness of the improvements
May impair the customary use and enjoyment of the property.

These hazards include toxic chemicals, radioactive materials, other pollution, hazardous activities (such as meth labs), potential damage from soil or other differential ground movements, ground water, inadequate surface drainage, flood, erosion, excessive noise and other hazards on or off site.

Sales History: A three-year prior sales history of the comparable sales and listings used in the appraisal has been completed.
 
dbradshaw75
"Hazards: The property was free of all known hazards and adverse conditions that:
May affect the health and safety of the occupants
May affect the structural soundness of the improvements
May impair the customary use and enjoyment of the property.

These hazards include toxic chemicals, radioactive materials, other pollution, hazardous activities (such as meth labs), potential damage from soil or other differential ground movements, ground water, inadequate surface drainage, flood, erosion, excessive noise and other hazards on or off site."


IMO, you may want to revise this section/statement if you do not have a "Field Expert(s)" report, in writing providing support addressing all of the above.
 
dbradshaw75
"Hazards: The property was free of all known hazards and adverse conditions that:
May affect the health and safety of the occupants
May affect the structural soundness of the improvements
May impair the customary use and enjoyment of the property.

These hazards include toxic chemicals, radioactive materials, other pollution, hazardous activities (such as meth labs), potential damage from soil or other differential ground movements, ground water, inadequate surface drainage, flood, erosion, excessive noise and other hazards on or off site."


IMO, you may want to revise this section/statement if you do not have a "Field Expert(s)" report, in writing providing support addressing all of the above.

Jay, In my reports I have all of the above commentary in an FHA commentary section with the the first paragraph as a disclaimer of sorts. Do you think it needs to be more specific wording? Maybe specifically state that the casual observation appplies to the entire section or report?
 
I think you need to lose all the BS and say it does or doesn't meet MPRs and why or why not. Bloviation is a sure sign of too much CYA in my opinion, but I am a get to the point ASAP type appraiser and Home Inspector. Dazzling with a bunch of BS boilerplate might look good but I'm not impressed. YMMV.
 
I think you need to lose all the BS and say it does or doesn't meet MPRs and why or why not. Bloviation is a sure sign of too much CYA in my opinion, but I am a get to the point ASAP type appraiser and Home Inspector. Dazzling with a bunch of BS boilerplate might look good but I'm not impressed. YMMV.
Mr. Rex, I hear you, I'm the same way, but I typically leave those in for the benefit of all the unintended users that seem to get their hands on these reports and think I deserve to be doing busy work all day with their requests.
 
Jay, In my reports I have all of the above commentary in an FHA commentary section with the the first paragraph as a disclaimer of sorts. Do you think it needs to be more specific wording? Maybe specifically state that the casual observation appplies to the entire section or report?
Don't use the term "casual reservation", (sounds bad ) instead, say visual observation - which conveys you saw but did not do any kind of testing ( except for systems did test such as do appliances work )

It is a good idea to carefully read the entire URAR form and its pre printed disclaimers, assumptions and limiting conditions - they pretty much cover it all, and no need to over explain beyond that, For gray area things I observe not rising to mark subject to inspection or repair, I might say inspection recommended.

The reality is if a user or unintended user is disgruntled and wants to make a stink , they will no matter what CYA statements are put in, and some of the statements I've read here on the board can conflict with the pre printed on the form , so if anything imo they can make things worse.
 
I only describe the deficient items, not a long list of everything possible based on the 4000.1 protocols. There are some issues that all lenders seem to want addressed (water heater, smoke and CO, attic and crawl) and I include those.

I'm glad this thread came up. I went back to my last FHA report and noticed I used the term MPS on an old house. Apparently I've been doing this for almost a year (copy and pasting). Must be getting senile.

Scope of work clarifications, intended use and user(s), additional client requirements:
The intended use of the appraisal is solely to assist FHA in assessing the risk of the Property securing the FHA-insured Mortgage (24 CFR § 200.145(b)). FHA and the Mortgagee are identified as the intended users of this appraisal report. The FHA Appraiser does not guarantee that the Property is free from defects. The appraisal establishes the value of the Property for mortgage insurance purposes only. A Home Inspection by a licensed Home Inspector is recommended. Refer to the HUD document "For Your Protection Get A Home Inspection."

The subject property meets HUD Minimum Property Requirements as described in HUD Handbook 4000.1 once the following repairs and/or inspections have been completed:

1) Downspout - Install downspout at southeast corner to provide positive drainage away from foundation. Install splash blocks at other downspouts. (See repair sheet)

2) Electrical outlet kitchen backsplash - Electrical inspection or repair of non-operating 110v outlet along kitchen counter back splash (see photos) (See repair sheet)

3) Dishwasher - complete installation and plumbing/wiring of new dishwasher. (See repair sheet)

4) Home inspection for damaged insulation and dampness in crawl space and for binding interior doors. (See repair sheet)
 
Last edited:
I only describe the deficient items, not a long list of everything possible based on the 4000.1 protocols. There are some issues that all lenders seem to want addressed (water heater, smoke and CO, attic and crawl) and I include those.

I'm glad this thread came up. I went back to my last FHA report and noticed I used the term MPS on an old house. Apparently I've been doing this for almost a year (copy and pasting). Must be getting senile.

Scope of work clarifications, intended use and user(s), additional client requirements:
The intended use of the appraisal is solely to assist FHA in assessing the risk of the Property securing the FHA-insured Mortgage (24 CFR § 200.145(b)). FHA and the Mortgagee are identified as the intended users of this appraisal report. The FHA Appraiser does not guarantee that the Property is free from defects. The appraisal establishes the value of the Property for mortgage insurance purposes only. A Home Inspection by a licensed Home Inspector is recommended. Refer to the HUD document "For Your Protection Get A Home Inspection."

The subject property meets HUD Minimum Property Requirements as described in HUD Handbook 4000.1 once the following repairs and/or inspections have been completed:

1) Downspout - Install downspout at southeast corner to provide positive drainage away from foundation. Install splash blocks at other downspouts. (See repair sheet)

2) Electrical outlet kitchen backsplash - Electrical inspection or repair of non-operating 110v outlet along kitchen counter back splash (see photos) (See repair sheet)

3) Dishwasher - complete installation and plumbing/wiring of new dishwasher. (See repair sheet)

4) Home inspection for damaged insulation and dampness in crawl space and for binding interior doors. (See repair sheet)

Are you copying off my paper? From, Cali to here?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Find a Real Estate Appraiser - Enter Zip Code

Copyright © 2000-, AppraisersForum.com, All Rights Reserved
AppraisersForum.com is proudly hosted by the folks at
AppraiserSites.com
Back
Top