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Florida's Anti-Regulation Law Has Fatal Flaw: It Assumes Truthful Regulators

Mejappz

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Wow, more corruption within Florida's state boards! Jeremy Bagott’s recent article uncovers some serious misconduct in the Real Estate Appraisal Board. They’ve been caught repeatedly submitting false info to dodge legislative checks on new regulations. A law from 2010 was meant to protect small businesses by requiring agencies to get approval for rules costing over $200,000. But this board has been misrepresenting the costs of updated appraisal standards, which actually end up exceeding $1 million!

And it’s worth noting that Florida appraisers are also required to take a 3-hour course on Florida Law Rules and Regulations, which costs an additional $80 each time. This ongoing pattern of deceit not only undermines the law's intent but also raises big questions about accountability in Florida’s regulatory processes. As costly regulations pile up without proper oversight, it’s time for the proletariat and lawmakers to wake up about what’s really going on!
 
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FLORIDA’S ANTI-REGULATION LAW HAS FATAL FLAW: IT ASSUMES TRUTHFUL REGULATORS

VENTURA, Calif. (October 4, 2024) – A regulatory board within Florida’s sprawling Department of Business and Professional Regulation has knowingly submitted false information to the Florida Secretary of State’s Office year after year. It hopes citizens of the Sunshine State won’t notice.

The petty lawbreaking isn’t sexy. It’s not click-bait material. No headline containing the word “regulation” will draw many eyeballs. The rogue regulator violates the state’s Administrative Procedure Act. The tiny board has banked on no one getting too excited about the misfeasance.

So far, no one has.

First some background: In 2010, the Florida legislature voted to override then-Governor Charlie Crist’s veto of House Bill 1565. A provision in the bill attempted to rein in the creation of new regulation that is hostile to small business. The provision received a great deal of attention at the time. It required special “legislative ratification” of any regulation created by a state agency that would have an adverse economic effect or regulatory costs exceeding a cumulative dollar threshold.

Since 2010, the threshold has been $200,000. If a new rule will cause more than $200,000 in cumulative cost to the public, it must be ratified by the state Legislature before it can take effect. It’s not unreasonable. But the law assumes state agencies will act in good faith. Big mistake.

In a recent rulemaking to incorporate the 2024 version of a continually changing set of private standards that govern how real property in Florida is appraised, the regulator provided false information about the aggregate cost of the proposed regulatory change – this to avoid the purgatory of filing a so-called “Statement of Estimated Regulatory Costs” and seeking legislative ratification for the change.

Members of the state agency’s Real Estate Appraisal Board, which signed off on the new regulation, knew for starters that each of Florida’s 6,204 active appraiser licensees would have to purchase a copy of the standards at a nonprofit publisher’s web site for $35. Although the price for the fluid standards has come down, this alone is more than $200,000 in the aggregate. That’s just the beginning. It doesn’t include the mandatory refresher courses, which eclipse the cost to purchase the standards. The courses can cost each licensee hundreds of dollars, and hundreds more for the work time lost to attend. This sends the aggregate cost of adopting each new edition of the fluid standards easily above the $1 million mark in Florida each time the regulation is changed to incorporate the new version of the standards.

Too much trouble. It’s easier to lie and omit. It’s not like Florida citizens have time to browse through the Florida Administrative Register to see what state agencies are actually up to. But they should.

The Florida Real Estate Appraisal Board of the state’s Department of Business and Professional Regulation did the same thing in documents from the rulemaking in 2019 and in the adoption of the 2020-2021 edition of the continually changing standards. These proposed rules contain versions of the same false information.

Not to belabor the point, the regulator did the same when it adopted the 2012-2013 version, claiming the privately owned standards were available online as a free document and would not have to be purchased. For the 2014-2015 version of the standards, the rogue regulator did the same. It did the same in its adoption of the 2016-2017 version of the standards, as well.

The name Juana Watkins is on the proposed rules that first began openly violating the provision of House Bill 1565. She was the director of the Division of Real Estate at the time. Her LinkedIn page shows she’s now the general counsel and vice president of law and policy at Florida Realtors.

The $200,000 aggregate threshold is an important safeguard for the Sunshine State’s small businesses. But sometimes complying with state law interferes with an agency’s important mission of enforcing hostile, anti-business regulations on hapless others.

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Jeremy Bagott, a licensed appraiser and former newspaperman, sends up a warning flare in his 2019 book “Dispatches from the Cosmic Cobra Breeding Farm.” He takes the reader deep inside a tiny Washington, D.C., foundation that has managed to have its copyrighted code of conduct enshrined in federal and state law. All 50 states, even the U.S. territories of Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands, now enforce it. The nonprofit, known as the Appraisal Foundation, has parlayed the arrangement into a lucrative publishing cartel. In his journey, the author uncovers a troubling trend deep in the plumbing of government.
 
I remember when the main stream news used to do investigative reporting. But then they decided to play ball and enjoyed the cocktail and country club parties too much and stopped doing their jobs. Now we rely on independent journalists. This is a major reason why corruption is so rampant these days. It was all part of the plan.
 
"Cost of $200,000" shouldn't be compared to $0. It should be compared to the costs of not complying with those requirements mandated by federal law.

If the state of Florida's licensing program doesn't comply with the existing state/federal law requiring compliance with FIRREA and the IAG then the ASC steps in to de-certify all of the licensees - for which the ASC has no discretion under such circumstances. They're required to do it. As they have done at least a couple times in the past that I'm aware of. Each instance resulting in instant compliance by those states because after all, they have no choice.

If decertified, those licensees' appraisals cannot be used for any RRT or FRT in that state. The costs to the consumers of THAT outcome is going to dwarf the $200k attributable to what basically amounts to mandatory compliance. Not to mention the prospects of other users following FFIECs example.

Baggott might as well be whining about workerbees not using the red Swingline stapler to attach the TPS cover pages to their reports.
 
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I remember when the main stream news used to do investigative reporting. But then they decided to play ball and enjoyed the cocktail and country club parties too much and stopped doing their jobs. Now we rely on independent journalists. This is a major reason why corruption is so rampant these days. It was all part of the plan.

Absolutely. The mainstream media is busy pushing the fed's social engineering programs and refuses to do actual reporting on the corruption hurting their constituents. So independent journalists like JB are the only ones left. This article is going to the Florida Secretary of State.
 
"Cost of $200,000" shouldn't be compared to $0. It should be compared to the costs of not complying with those requirements mandated by federal law.

If the state of Florida's licensing program doesn't comply with the existing state/federal law requiring compliance with FIRREA and the IAG then the ASC steps in to de-certify all of the licensees - for which the ASC has no discretion under such circumstances. They're required to do it. As they have done at least a couple times in the past that I'm aware of. Each instance resulting in instant compliance by those states because after all, they have no choice.

If decertified, those licensees' appraisals cannot be used for any RRT or FRT in that state. The costs to the consumers of THAT outcome is going to dwarf the $200k attributable to what basically amounts to mandatory compliance. Not to mention the prospects of other users following FFIECs example.

Baggott might as well be whining about workerbees not using the red Swingline stapler to attach the TPS cover pages to their reports.
This is a leaping twist just to create an argument! I hope you are ok!
 
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My point was and is that "compared to perfect" isn't among the alternatives for any of these decisions. The states have no choice but to comply with the unfunded federal mandates, including those regarding CE requirements. They don't have the unilateral authority to shortsheet those requirements on their own without facing the consequences that go along with that. No ability to negotiate terms or enact exceptions or concessions. The consequences for going rogue are wholly unacceptable within the context of serving the legitimate interests of their public.

And BTW, one of the instances where the ASC exercised their authority to decertify the licensing program for a state was the result of that state not supplying the current info for the national registry despite being warned repeatedly to comply. That violation of federal law is trivial compared to a state attempting to alter, edit or modify or negotiate USPAP or allow their appraisers to skip their required CE. So don't think for one second that the ASC would be any less aggressive with this sort of violation.

Hassle the states to enact more barriers to the expediency they have previously chosen and all you get are more obstruction and more costs at the state level and funded by that state's taxpayers, if not passed on directly to the licensees in their renewal fees. Worse, the obstrution is to no avail because there will be absolutely no effect whatsoever on what amounts to the inevitable outcome. Costs which might end up being ADDED to the existing costs the critics are already complaining about because the existing costs they're complaining about aren't going to get changed. Either the state is going to buy the book for their licensees or the licensees are going to buy the book. Nothing is going to be free.

The state isn't the venue for fighting that outcome - the critics need to hassle Congress for that.
 
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This is a leaping twist just to create an argument! I hope you are ok!



1. **Overriding State Law**: The ASC has circumvented state administrative law by pressuring states to bypass their legislative processes, effectively imposing USPAP without due process.

2. **Grant Misallocation**: The ASC has awarded grants to organizations, which may constitute a potential felony, violating legal restrictions on such actions.

3. **Misrepresentation to State Authorities**: The FREAB misled the Florida Secretary of State by claiming that the passage of new USPAP versions does not burden small businesses or exceed the $200,000 thresholds set by the state legislature, thereby violating state law.

4. **Anti-Competitive Practices**: Boards across the country have engaged in tactics to eliminate competition, including sanctioning or revoking licenses without just cause.

5. **Inconsistent Interpretation of USPAP**: Different state boards lack understanding and consistency regarding USPAP, highlighting significant weaknesses in its application.

This is just a glimpse of the issues at hand; there’s much more to address, but I have work to do.
 
Actually, it was Congress that has imposed these requirements on the states. The ASC is part of the Executive Branch of govt, not the Legislative Branch. Their job is to enforce the law.

And if you're going to complain about how the state boards understand USPAP that's a problem with how those states select and train (or not train) their board members. Not with how the state law itself is written with respect to what is/isn't an appraisal. That "people problem" issue is most effectively addressed by some of the same activities at TAF that you geniuses keep characterizing as junketing and corruption. The states are getting instruction about the material from THE SOURCE, the same as the Instructors have been getting, and for the same reason: to get as close to consistency and fairness as possible when considering the personnel rotation in/out of those boards.
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One more thing appraisers should consider

The states didn't all bring their licensing programs online at the same time because they all agreed with Congress or with any or all of the requirements involved. They did it because they had no choice but to comply, and that includes those states which were actively opposed to this endeavor and only complied under duress. To this day, if some of these states could "sunset" some or all of these requirements they would do so in a heartbeat and under the States Rights banner.

That's what makes for the irony of attacking the states. These requirements that you hate aren't their fault. That many of the states enacted expediencies to minimize the time/effort it takes them to comply is both understandable AND excusable if viewed from the lens of reducing the pain to the lowest possible point. As opposed to constantly trying to punish the states for choosing the least expensive path through their problem. That ostensible "speaking truth to power" thing only works when actually speaking to the power itself instead of one of the subordinate satellite entities.

If the ASC decertifies a state's licensing program, how do you guys think HUD and the GSEs are going to react? This is not some trivial or far fetched prospect to what happens if a state simply stops complying with these requirements because some agitators want to bleed the beast. .
 
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Some will still defend corruption even when the institutions they hold in such high regard are shown to be corrupt
 
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