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Freddie Mac Research - Appraisals

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As I read it, Freddie's study amount to "there's something to it
I think the first shot was fired the other day when Freddie issued a press release identifying the cause of appraisal bias...appraisers. The fix has been applied! The message has clearly been sent, either start rubber-stamping the contract when working in minority neighborhoods or be open to criticism. I do feel for those folks who will get swept into appraisal practice through the current diversity initiatives, many probably to be trained through PAREA, and then expected to always be "right" when working in minority communities. There is enough pressure and coercion in this business without that. Imagine having regulations and your license demanding that you be unbiased and not reach conclusions that favor the cause of the client on one hand, and your community on the other demanding that you always favor their cause. The real challenge for any appraiser of any color going forward will be to find clients whose only "cause" is a credible opinion of market value.

I think you should step back and take a breath. Feddie's summary clearly states that the root cause isn't obvious and the issue merits more study.

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APPRAISERS HAVE CRIED FOR DATA AND BE PAID FOR THEIR DATA FOR YEARS.

WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
 
The chickens are coming home to roost.
 
I have no objections whatsoever to the research note. I am assuming those who compiled it were under great pressure to deliver something immediately, whether it was ready for prime time or not. But, that was then immediately spun in a press release that includes the following:

Conclusions:
"This is a persistent problem that disproportionately impacts hundreds of thousands of Black and Latino applicants"
"Our goal is to develop solutions to this persistent problem"


Solutions:
"uniform standards for automated valuation models"
"improved value processes"
" develop supporting tools to create new approaches across the valuation spectrum"
"The company is also testing whether alternatives to traditional appraisals offer a more objective analysis of property value."

Every single story I have read, based on this press release, captures the intended conclusion of the press release: We have identified the "cause" of the problem with certainty. They have not yet identified if there is a problem. What if someone objectively looked at the issue and found that, rather than disenfranchising the supposed victims, they have been protected? Seems to me if Freddie was being objective and not selling their bill of goods, they could have made clear they haven't identified the cause of a problem when they have not.
 
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The problem I have with most of this discussion (especially the ASC Fall Roundtable) is the bias issue is predetermined by people who have zero appraisal methodology knowledge and the predetermined conclusions aren't challenged by anyone in our industry because they don't want to be run over by the politics of it (can't say I blame them).

Not long ago the hot topic was gentrification, minorities were being priced out of majority minority neighborhoods. Now the complaint is values aren't high enough in those neighborhoods. None of this stuff happens in a vacuum. Nearly all buyers require financing and they buy what they can afford. If there isn't a corresponding raise in wages we'll be back to the gentrification issues all over again. In short, if minorities are priced out of minority neighborhoods due to changes in appraisal methodology how is that helping?

I have no doubt we're in for big change sooner than later. And I called this from the beginning: The first shot in the war to change how residential appraisers value property will be through PAREA. Several national AMCs are developing their PAREA education and actively recruiting mentors. PAREA was mentioned in the *ASC roundtable discussion, mentioned in several other similar discussions, mentioned in several chief appraiser blog posts, etc. This will be a win-win for AMCs. Cloaked in a social justice costume they will be able to staff with newly minted PAREA drones who know only what they were trained to know. Jump neighborhoods for value, base value on cost, done - whatever it takes to satisfy the issue de-jure.

In all honesty, I'm not sure we can get out of the way of this train. With AMCs dominating the market via market share, the only way we can slow it down is to rally for a VA style system. In that way staff appraisers will have to wait for orders like indie appraisers. That will all but put a stop to staff since AMCs will not be able to capture lender clients and assign multiple reports a day to their staff. As much as I would love to see this, it isn't going to happen. To many billion dollar companies hired people for influence, we're all but cooked.

*It was mentioned that 12 states have adopted PAREA (I'm not sure if that's accurate), but here's the big kicker - the idea of federal standards or forcing states to adopt PAREA was discussed. Given the big sticks in the conversation I wouldn't dismiss the idea and how serious they are in their belief that appraiser demographics and methodology must be changed, via mandates if necessary.
So would that mean they're going to throw Vets to the curb ? OR will they hire the Vet only under PAREA standards ?
There is a Nationwide "Hire The Vet movement" thats been going on for a couple of years now. Your thoughts ?
 
So would that mean they're going to throw Vets to the curb ? OR will they hire the Vet only under PAREA standards ?
There is a Nationwide "Hire The Vet movement" thats been going on for a couple of years now. Your thoughts ?
A lot of people of color are Vets, the AMCs will double dip when they can.
 
FWIW and if I am wrong with my numbers, please let me know.

1. If memory serves me correctly, some higher ups stated that +-95% of reports that were analyzed by the GSE's hit the contract price. +-. So if that is true, how many homeowners are really being "hurt" by a low appraisal. I remember appraisers being thrown under the bus for this.....YOU cannot have it both ways.

2. I have been a agent for over 15 years. The most uninformed buyers are first time buyers of all races. Lower income neighborhoods tend to have the most corruption and inflated sale prices....seller contributions, repair issues, investors, etc. Gentrification neighborhoods always tend to push the values as they are full of investor flippers that are trying to push values. DIRTY LITTLE SECRET....most agents know mortgage companies that will ....you know...make it work out for potential problem buyers, low income, low credit, etc. borrowers. Agents only make money will the deal closes...

3. I realize that it is not our job to protect the buyer, but I would appreciate a honest appraiser coming in "low" or under the contract price. As stated above, most are uninformed buyers and this is their first transaction. They are taken advantage of all of the time....fingers are crossed on just getting approved...it's all about just getting approved and coming up with that 0-5% down payment. Bad choices are made on a daily basis.

4. What about the investors....the public? It is the publics money that they are lending. I thing the government for gets that. It is not their money. It is OUR money. Protect it!!! I come on here all of the time throwing number hitting appraisers under the bus, and now I get feeling that we need to juice the value.....
 
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