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Contact me if you need a trainee danny.wade@sbcglobal.net

If that's your business model, please exit stage left. And you wonder why it is like it is?:Eyecrazy:
Getting started is extremely difficult .Trainning is my priority not money. I live in LOS ANGELES 323-295-3731
 
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The current industry model is sustained on the mentoring program and it would be difficult to debunk the prevailing method.

It might be wise to integrate the apprenticeship program into the community college system, xxxxx number of credits and the mentoring of trainees provided by certified appraisers who are recognized by the respective institutions to be qualified mentors (and also certified of course). The American Culinary Federation coordinates a cook/chef program in hundreds of 2-year colleges throughout the nation. It would be a huge undertaking, and the mentoring program is loosely supervised at best because of the volume of individuals involved, but it would provide a measure of certainty that is largely absent our industry at present.
 
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3 last week, 1 non-mortgage related. 2-weeks prior 2 + 3 cancellations.

Not a full moon, more like a legislative problem.
 
What is the big deal? He only wants to hire a couple of trainees which is legal. I may be not be entirely correct, but from what I recall a few months ago someone posted that a licensed appraiser can have up to a dozen trainees in CA. There are several in here with large shops who post every time they get an assignment more complex than matched pairs on the same block. It has to make the veteran one person shops furious to have to compete with that.

Only 2 allowed per Certified appraiser.
 
One assignment thus far in September...hoping to peak late with a rally in week 4 to finish with 3 or 4 for the month...
 
I took a full time job the middle of August and haven't felt better in years. Steady pay and I still do a few appraisals here and there. I should have done this long ago.... Good luck to all of you.
 
I took a full time job the middle of August and haven't felt better in years. Steady pay and I still do a few appraisals here and there. I should have done this long ago.... Good luck to all of you.

What are you doing?
 
The current industry model is sustained on the mentoring program and it would be difficult to debunk the prevailing method.


The current industry model is completely dysfunctional.
You dont learn anything about appraising in appraiser school so you're basically useless until your supervisor spends a couple weeks training you to inspect a house, select comps, use the data sources, complete the basics of the report.
Once you're trained you're still not that much use to an ETHICAL appraiser who's going to inspect and view comps and do a meaningful review of the report you right. At best the supervisor can hope to realize a 50% reduction in the amount of time they have invested in a given job, by having a trainee help them measure, inspect, and write a draft of the report. If they're seeing more than 50% time savings they're probably cheating on the inspections or reviews or both.
After you're licensed you're immediate competition in the supervisor's market.

Bottom line the up-front costs and long term competition associated with a trainee are not adequately compensated by the financial benefit you get while training them......unless you cheat.

I think the solution lies in 3 parts.
1) You need to REALLY train ATs. They should have actually completed a few mock appraisals, on real houses, inspections, data, GSE compliant write up...the whole bit. Part of the training should include a better understanding of ethics in the industry. USPAP is all good and well, but when you take the 16 hour class you dont have enough information about the industry to translate it to the day to day activities of an appraiser.

2) The trainee/supervisor relationship needs to be formalized. The pair need to be registered with the state up front. Detialed logs of jobs, activiteis, training time, etc should be kept. Like with a student pilot, there should be a series of progressive sign-offs for certian activities, with some sort of 3rd party verification of competence. That way, for instance when a super thinks a trainee is ok to inspect on their own, the could get them signed off for "solo" inspections as part of a supervised report. This kind of progressive, ability to work independantly would increase the trainee's value to the super and the trainee's value in the market place which would also aid the trainee's economic situation.

3) Appraisers who want to incorporate trainee's into their business need to meet a higher standard. The need specific training, and additional scrutiny of their activities.

But the whole plan has to be built around making a trainee a more economically viable entity.
 
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