General and/or UAD question about driveway parking

[huntercharlie]

This is what FHA has to say, not sure if GSEs are on the same page;

Driveway # of Cars​

• If applicable, mark this box and enter the number of cars that can be parked. A single lane driveway is considered to be a one-car driveway. It would be considered a two car driveway if either car can be moved without disturbing​

the other.

 

[CANative]

This is what FHA has to say, not sure if GSEs are on the same page;

Driveway # of Cars​

• If applicable, mark this box and enter the number of cars that can be parked. A single lane driveway is considered to be a one-car driveway. It would be considered a two car driveway if either car can be moved without disturbing​

the other.

This isn't the case in the OPs scenario.

 

[Motown Matt]

I did not read all of the responses to this topic, just the first few. However, I have taken classes that have addressed this since UAD came out. The number of cars that can be parked and moved out WITHOUT having to move any of other cars. A 1 lane circular drive would be a 2 car driveway. A 24' garage with a single car door is a one-car garage (doesn't mean it may not have added value for being extra-wide, that's just how you are to report the facts). The picture linked on pg 1 is a 2-car attached garage with a 2-car driveway.

The garage and driveway are independent numbers - i.e. just because you can't move cars out of the garage if you have 2 cars parked in the driveway, it is still a 2-car garage, of course. I had to add this for those who just like to argue.

 

[KenAZ]

manufactured home, no garage on a flat graded 1 acre lot. Basically the entire lot is a driveway.

What number do I put now?

 

[DMZwerg]

This is what FHA has to say, not sure if GSEs are on the same page;

Driveway # of Cars​

• If applicable, mark this box and enter the number of cars that can be parked. A single lane driveway is considered to be a one-car driveway. It would be considered a two car driveway if either car can be moved without disturbing​

the other.

That is close to my understanding.

I have seen a property with a 1/4 mile or so paved single-lane "driveway" from the road to the house (through open field ... and probably 7'-8' wide tops as it actually had 2-3 bump out passing places so cars going in opposite directions could get past).

If it wasn't for the 7+ paved parking places at main place it would have been a 3-car driveway as there were technically 3 spots

I figure to could as CAR STORAGE there has to be enough room for a car to get out of the garage. Thus given the picture with what appeared to be 1.5-2 car depth and full 2-car width that would be a 2-car driveway.

I count any appreciable driveway as "1-car" because in my family we will drive across the grass to get out if necessary.

 

[DMZwerg]

manufactured home, no garage on a flat graded 1 acre lot. Basically the entire lot is a driveway.

What number do I put now?

"4+"

. . . . .

 

[Motown Matt]

manufactured home, no garage on a flat graded 1 acre lot. Basically the entire lot is a driveway.

What number do I put now?

A lot is not a driveway. If there is no place that clearly looks like it was "improved" as a place to specifically park a car, then you check the "none" next to Car Storage and zeros in the fields requiring numbers.

I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to understand. This is the "improvements" section of the form. Parking the car in the front yard does not make it an improvement. They teach these things in Limited classes nowadays

 

[DMZwerg]

A lot is not a driveway. If there is no place that clearly looks like it was "improved" as a place to specifically park a car, then you check the "none" next to Car Storage and zeros in the fields requiring numbers.

I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to understand. This is the "improvements" section of the form. Parking the car in the front yard does not make it an improvement. They teach these things in Limited classes nowadays

Real short answer? I have actually seen "dirt" driveways.
Do you truly understand the work and cost involved in maintaining an high quality "dirt" driveway? (or even the thought that can go into the design?)

In many rural areas there are areas open to the elements dedicated to vehicle storage. A term for this is a "farm yard" and an even older term (with somewhat different purpose) is a "village square" or "village green". The size, layout and surfacing of a farm yard varies from farm to farm (and the needs vary depending on the number & sizes of vehicles as well as type of farm and even "personal preference") but the use is temporary or long term vehicle storage and is a designed, dedicated and (dare I say it) "improved" area even if is is only raw dirt/dust and NOT paved or gravel (heck, "dust" to some farmers is an "improvement" over grass/weeds).

So, just because an area does not appear to be "improved" from one perspective does NOT mean it was not designed in such a way to be so. In other words, the layout of the buildings around the yard can be a negative or positive affect beyond the value of the improvements themselves depending on how much the hinder or how much they improve fluid & efficient movement of vehicles needed for H&BU.


All that said, just because a lot is all dirt does NOT mean it is entirely a "dirt" driveway like the post you responded to implied, but there can be great benefit to negative space intended for specific (often occasional) utilizations.

 

[Rich Heyn]

Here's a link to a short video on this topic.

http://www.screencast.com/t/pgEKhLCJ3DPW

 

[KenAZ]

That video basically says that it is up to you and your expertise.