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Getting The Run Around!!

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ginna currie

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I ordered Aurora for myself(paid with my credit card under my company name). I have a license for Athena under my boss. My invoice was e-mailed to my boss(1st error). When I called to complain about them e-mailing my boss, Win Total sent a second e-mail to my boss confirming the change of e-mail address(2nd error). When I called to cancel because the rep "cloned" my info from my boss' account, I was told my account would be canceled, but it was not(3rd error). I have called, spoke to various reps, left messages for the powers that be and still nothing. What do I do? Any suggestions??
 
ginna currie said:
I ordered Aurora for myself(paid with my credit card under my company name). I have a license for Athena under my boss. My invoice was e-mailed to my boss(1st error). When I called to complain about them e-mailing my boss, Win Total sent a second e-mail to my boss confirming the change of e-mail address(2nd error). When I called to cancel because the rep "cloned" my info from my boss' account, I was told my account would be canceled, but it was not(3rd error). I have called, spoke to various reps, left messages for the powers that be and still nothing. What do I do? Any suggestions??

Ginna --

I'll get it straightened out. However, there are a few things here which, while a hassle, were implemented specifically because of identity theft concerns (and real-world examples) as well as employment disputes. We constantly get caught in the middle and have had to be involved with the FBI on a number of instances. So, this isn't just for the fun of it.

When someone orders a copy of software under a boss' license, it is still under the employer's license. We have to notify the person whose liability that copy affects.

Second, under ANY circumstances, when someone changes an e-mail address, we MUST send a notice to the original address letting them know a change was requested. That alerts someone to an employee or ex-employee attempting to hijack control of the passwords for an account. It might seem that changing an e-mail address is harmless, but it isn't. If someone wanted control, they'd request an address change, and then click "Can't remember my password" on any of our products, which sends the password to the account on record, and bingo, they're in. They can then send e-mails as though they are you, control orders, you name it. Addresses are not trivial things. The notice we send makes this clear.

I'll check into the rest, but you have to understand that this isn't all fun and games. We have specific reasons for doing things for your own protection. If all people could be trusted, this would be no problem. But any time you get an industry of a hundred thousand people, a small percentage are outright criminals. You have to remember that -- and we're on the front lines.

As always, you know how to reach me. An e-mail to me would have gotten this resolved much faster and with less hassle. It wouldn't have been public, but it all depends on whether that's your goal or not.

Dave Biggers
Chairman
a la mode, inc.
 
Dave,

Your points about identity theft, involvement with the FBI on these issues, and Alamode trying to make sure all involved are doing things legally, upfront and open, are all valid and good to know here. So, I like that this came out here and appreciate knowing what is happening and why.
 
I am sorry, we goofed, we will take care of it right away.

Why has it become so hard for corporate america to say it?

Everywhere you go, a blatant mistake was noted by the customer and manager/owner notified of it, but the only thing you get is excuses and more excuses.

Just yesterday, I was taking my laptop in for a second time to repair an overheating problem. The first thing out of the mouth of the clerk was " are you sure you know it is overheating? Could it be something else?"

Just take the d#$%@ thing and have your repair guys look at it!
:(
 
Dear Mr. Biggers:

I was not expecting you to reply(when I have a problem with AmEx- Ken Chenault doesn't call me and I will never hear from Warren Buffet when GEICO fails to apply my payment properly.) Totally impressed.
Anywho, I ordered Aurora on my own, MY COMPANY NAME--C.T. Appraisals. The rep never asked for my e-mail address nor fax, he just used the info from the cloned acct. Why can't I order from Win Total separate from my ex- boss, are e-mails going to be sent to my former boss if I add onto my account????
 
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Michael,

You may want to read the thread. The President of the Company came on here, a public forum, and said it would be taken care of. Now that is customer service. Although Im not a Wintotal fan thats definitely a classy move by Mr. Biggers.
 
KYLECODY
My point was that "customer service" is going down the toilet, generally.
What Mr. Biggers, does or does not do on this forum is not representative of alamode customer service.

KYLECODY if you want to tell others to read, you may want to take some initiative yourself. Mr. Biggers is the Chairman of alamode and not the "President".
 
Why do some of you make such sport of taking pot shots at ALAMODE? I'm not paid by them to stand up for them and don't get anything out of this, but I'm getting tired of seeing all of the pot shots taken at a company that has done as much if not much more than any other to make our lives as appraiser's at technologically savy as they are. I have my gripes with them, but try to address them with the company as I have overall found that when I take the time to really explain my issues with them, they really listen and try to resolve or address the issues. I've been irritated with alot of the errors/problems with Athena, but realize that when they release a new version of the software, they have no way of knowing all of the conflicts each of our separate systems will create. I haven't seen the kind of support given to customers that they give outside of this company for years. Anyway, if you really have problems or questions, call tech support or sales and ask for a supervisor, be prepared to spend some time on the phone and work the problem out. I don't know many other CEO's or Chairman of the Bd of other corporations who so willing will post and give their e-mail addresses or will really be in touch with their common customers. Go Dave!

Liz S.
 
Michael Chu said:
KYLECODY
My point was that "customer service" is going down the toilet, generally.
What Mr. Biggers, does or does not do on this forum is not representative of alamode customer service.

KYLECODY if you want to tell others to read, you may want to take some initiative yourself. Mr. Biggers is the Chairman of alamode and not the "President".

Michael,

Care sharing with us which appraisal software company you work for?

If your just a wintotal user and are disgruntled; Whats you'r beef and can you share with us your experience with tech support at alamode?

p.s. a quick review of your past post to threads indicates that you must know everything about appraising and are just keenly interested and focused in on all the technical issues of computer use at this forum.

Glad you are here, we can pick your brain clean.
 
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liz S. said:
Why do some of you make such sport of taking pot shots at ALAMODE? I'm not paid by them to stand up for them and don't get anything out of this, but I'm getting tired of seeing all of the pot shots taken at a company that has done as much if not much more than any other to make our lives as appraiser's at technologically savy as they are. I have my gripes with them, but try to address them with the company as I have overall found that when I take the time to really explain my issues with them, they really listen and try to resolve or address the issues. I've been irritated with alot of the errors/problems with Athena, but realize that when they release a new version of the software, they have no way of knowing all of the conflicts each of our separate systems will create. I haven't seen the kind of support given to customers that they give outside of this company for years. Anyway, if you really have problems or questions, call tech support or sales and ask for a supervisor, be prepared to spend some time on the phone and work the problem out. I don't know many other CEO's or Chairman of the Bd of other corporations who so willing will post and give their e-mail addresses or will really be in touch with their common customers. Go Dave!

Liz S.

Dear Liz:

You are absolutely right! I am a big fan of customer service. I thought another appraiser would inform me of how to deal with the situation. (I think Mr. Biggers is too close to the company to be objective.) People do need a place to vent also. I had addressed my issue with the company and it took five days for a call back--prior to this I never had an issue with Wintotal. So for now.... I LUV WINTOTAL!!!!!
 
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