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Going To Work As Review Appraiser For Bank?

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Rlong

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I am wondering what are the unforseen downsides and/or upsides to going to work for a larger bank as a commercial review appraiser? I Have 9 years experiece and am somewhat tired of managing my own company, "bidding" for work, and paying all the bills. (I have talked to several banks this year.)

Bob
 
upsides: Benefits, stable income

Downsides: Commuting, rush hour on College Avenue, office politics, usually inflexable schedule, liability, new wardrobe, alarm clock, cant escape to Horseshoe midday..I could go on but Ill stop. I loathed 8-5. Good luck.
 
Upsides: No more working evenings or weekends, holidays that are actual holidays (instead of being time to catch up), real honest-to-goodness vacations.

Downsides: Trying to get fee appraisers to answer questions from a "stupid" reviewer, trying to get loan officers to answer questions from a "stupid" reviewer.

I know a lot of fee appraisers who denigrate bank review jobs, but I don't know a lot of appraisers who've taken such jobs and left.
 
I don't know about the commercial end, but most people I know who are staff review appraisers got into it after years in the field and prefer it. It depends on the bank you work for, but some reviewers end up working ridiculous hours just to try to keep up with the banks unrealistic expectations for production and turn around times, so do keep that in mind. It depends on the type of review position it is. If it is a more in depth QC position production isn't paramount, but if it is a typical position, more often than not it is :( :angry:
 
Well I appreciate all the input; it helps. I am wrestling with these issues. The loss of a very flexible schedule is the major sticking point for me, but obviously it has significant benefits.

I have been through this decision before and remained a fee appraiser. One of the challenges is knowing how “grueling” the workload might be, or the politics one is getting into, before taking the position. This is a new position for this particular bank, so some of these things are not defined as yet for them, or for me.

Where are you located Kyle, that sounds a little “close” to my area; can you see me?

Bob
 
Originally posted by Rlong@Oct 31 2005, 12:17 PM
This is a new position for this particular bank, so some of these things are not defined as yet for them, or for me.

Bob,

I was a bank review appraiser (commercial) for 17 years, having worked at 5 different lenders, so I have a lot of different experiences to draw upon.

When you are the first staff appraiser for an institution, you will often find yourself fighting the inertia of undisciplined lending. It can be a difficult and hostile political environment, facing loan officers who've never heard the word "no" before. Make sure you understand the culture of the institution you're joining. Rapid growth may signal a culture of risky lending. This culture often extends down from the CEO, so look at his background, too. Is it in sales?

These are the things I liked about working for a lender:

1. Getting to travel more widely. Having worked for national lenders, I have field experience in 30 of the 50 states.

2. Being removed from the grind of creating narrative appraisal reports. Your review reports will be much shorter (unless the fee appraiser really screws up).

3. Regularity of income.
4. Bonuses.
5. Stock options.
6. Being treated as an expert.

I hope that helps.

Vern Martin
 
Where are you located Kyle, that sounds a little “close” to my area; can you see me?

I can see you. Somewhere between Taft and Mulberry?? Im from Denver but now in Phx, my ex gf is a Ft. Collins resident and I went to college at Univ. of Wyo in Laramie just a hair N of you. I know your town well. Pretty place. Good luck with the decision.
 
I just made the switch from commercial fee appraiser to commercial review appraiser two years ago. As other post-ers have indicated, what I do like are the regular hours, only working on weekends and holidays if I want to (and if I do, getting paid extra for doing it), basically getting to have a personal life again. I also work for a lender with a nationwide lending program, so I have enjoyed learning about other parts of the country and the travel to look at some of the properties we are making loans on.

The downside includes the loss of the ability to take time off when I want. Am stuck with the "accrued" time available, and the dress code. I do have to admit that the California dress code standard is much more casual than it was in Chicago so that has been an improvement. I took a substantial cut in pay to make this switch. After two years, I am trying to decide if the trade-off in pay is worth the additional time off. Or maybe it is just that after two years of having a personal life I have realized I didn't need as much personal life as I thought.

After reading many of the posts on this website regarding what the residential appraisers generally think about reviewers, I think that commercial appraisal reviewers must be a little more experienced than the residential appraisal reviewers. Generally the appraisers that I work with are very responsive when asked for additional information, corrections or clarifications. But I think a lot of it has to do with how reasonable the appraiser feels the request is to start with.

As mentioned in another post, the corporate atmosphere where you are going will be of critical importance. How much support does the Appraisal Department have from those farther up the ladder? If there is no support, you will be defending your decisions constantly, and it won't be much fun. It's never any fun to be the bad guy all the time. Where I worked in Chicago before making the move to California, the Appraisal Department was blamed for every loan that didn't make it through underwriting, no matter what the real cause. That company has now done away with its Appraisal Department altoghether. I am waiting for the foreclosures to start really spiking in about a year or so when the faked income statements and bad appraisals start coming to light.

Would I trade the experience? No. It has been great to see the appraisal business from the lending side. If I do choose to go back to fee appraisal, I know that I will provide better reports to my clients because I now know what they are looking for.
 
I appreciate everyones input, I'll let you know how it goes. Keeping quiet right now.

Bob
 
Paula,
How long were you a commercial fee appraiser and was it difficult finding a job as a commercial review appraiser?

Thanks
 
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