Grass Eaters And Mgtow - Long Term Economic Implications

[George Hatch]

It pretty much doesn't matter,
if they can't pass on their genetics.

Wait a minute. If smart people have fewer kids and dumb people have more kids that has long term consequences. Then when our government want's to import more people from nations with lower intelligence and their fertility rates are higher that adds up, too.

 

[Meandering]

Wait a minute. If smart people have fewer kids and dumb people have more kids that has long term consequences. Then when our government want's to import more people from nations with lower intelligence and their fertility rates are higher that adds up, too.

So your answer is????

Everyone have more sex and stop believing you are not the sex you were born as?????

Yup a world ful of dumb people having sex, while smart people go extinct of their own accord.

Darn climate change.

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[George Hatch]

But getting back to the economic ramifications, our society already sends more women to college than men. How does that play out over the long term?

Women are conditioned to "marry up" in terms of resources
Women have a more finite period during their lives when they can safely bear children

May we be looking at a situation where younger guys are deciding in advance that they're not interested in engaging in the big struggle to raise a family? If you don't intent to raise kids then you won't experience as strongly the urge to make the sacrifices to get the big job, spend most or all of your waking hours working or commuting to that job, trying to balance the demands on your time a family needs, and then run the risk of losing it all anyway when your wife decides to initiate a divorce because she's unhappy.

Supposedly, when unmarried couples break up men are just as likely as women to initiate that, but when marriages break up 70% of those are initiated by the woman.

Anyways, a guy not planning on kids or marriage has less incentive to go to college, less incentive to buy the house, less incentive to make sacrifices to get ahead at work, and isn't on the hook for child support. After a while and extending the current trends the economics of that might add up.


Then when these guys have no kids to take care of them in their old age those efforts devolve to the state.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Wait a minute. If smart people have fewer kids and dumb people have more kids that has long term consequences. Then when our government want's to import more people from nations with lower intelligence and their fertility rates are higher that adds up, too.

Birth rates are falling and have fallen in the industrialized world. Third world countries have higher birth rates.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

But getting back to the economic ramifications, our society already sends more women to college than men. How does that play out over the long term?

The UN has studies that show the more education women have, the fewer children they have.

A negative correlation is most clearly seen between different levels of female education and the total fertility rate (TFR) in a population. TFR is the number of children a woman can expect to have over her lifetime given current rates of age-specific fertility.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

Then when these guys have no kids to take care of them in their old age those efforts devolve to the state.

Birth rates vary by season and latitude: What explains the peaks?

More babies conceived during winter

 

[Meandering]

Don't worry George.

Considering my grandsons, now entering adolscence, they will be upping the suface population within a decade or so. I have no doubt about that. And they are all honor roll kids now.

Besides, every society has it's oddities. But I'm sure this is something that isn't as bad as a slow news day can make it seem.


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[George Hatch]

The average IQ in the US is supposedly ~98, inclusive of our diverse population. That average is nowhere near constant around the world. Avg IQ in Singapore, Hong Kong and S Korea is 104-108. rthe Average IQ in Europe ranges from 95-102. The average in much of the 3rd world is in the 80s and in some nations its below 80.

The US military is prohibited by law from taking ANY recruits in whose score on the ASVAB places them in the CategoryV tier, the IQ for which supposedly tops out at ~80; and they can take no more than 20% of their recruits from the Category IV scores, which are the equivalent of IQs ranging from 81-90ish. The reason for that is that they've figured out that the military can't train these lower intelligence people to meet their standards in most of the military occupational specialties. Supposedly the avg IQ in the military is in excess of 100-103 or so. That's the average.

For comparison, IQs in the RE, Finance and Insurance occupations ranges from ~88-126ish. High School teachers are from 92-126ish. Cops 87-115. MDSs 106+, Legal 99+

Kind of interesting.

 

[Randolph Kinney]

... but when marriages break up 70% of those are initiated by the woman.

It use to be women married for money. Now they divorce for the money. It's like an investment decision of when to sell.

 

[George Hatch]

Don't worry George.

Considering my grandsons, now entering adolscence, they will be upping the suface population within a decade or so. I have no doubt about that. And they are all honor roll kids now.

Besides, every society has it's oddities. But I'm sure this is something that isn't as bad as a slow news day can make it seem.


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You may wind up being surprised. My kids (5 including step kids) are all 31-37 right now. I only have one grandkid so far.