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Have I been told a falsehood?

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Patti Jury

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I recenty took the test for Certified and passed....I have files dated nearly ten years ago (to lazy to throw anything away)...but for the past several years..I have done mainly review work. In large part due to several surgeries and it was easier to drive than inspect.

So after jumping through all the course work and test taking..I was told...by a person at the State that the State would only accept "complex files"...I need to document 500 hours of "complex" work...

Now I for some reason can NOT find the word "complex" on the State's website. I do however find the words...(Taken from the State's Website)

"Applicants for appraiser licensure or certification must now submit an experience log or work record of all appraisal work assignments. These work records need to include the following information: assignment identification number, date of appraisal, client name, purpose of appraisal, type of property, task, and number of hours. The log or work record must also include a certification that is signed by the applicant and the supervising appraiser. Sample appraisal logs, including the certification are available from the Board of Real Estate Appraisers' office (form BOREA-EXP LOG) or on the website, www.dora.state.co.us/real-estate. "

I'm sorry where did I miss the "complex" part? I was lead to believe that the State was looking for mainly Income properties...Hard to do when you find a niche such as I did for several years.

Has anyone else had an issue with this?
 
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TXCBoy36

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They are looking for hard to do appraisals...unique appraisals. Appraisals that display your ability to appraise hard to appraiser properties, or at least that was my interpretation.

JC
 

Patti Jury

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But they do NOT say that..they simply say..."ALL work files"...

I'm just saying....

It gives NO indication as to complex work. They maybe looking for such...but they do not indicate such....
 
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TXCBoy36

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Just turn in what you have. They will look over the log sheet and pick two to three appraisals to look at. When they do, they will want you to supply these appraisals to them. Then it goes through an internal review and then they will send you their review. Pretty simple process.

JC
 

Mike Garrett RAA

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Hi Patti...

I wish I could give you a simple answer but I really don't know. Sounds strange to me in that complex appraisal assignments are supposed to be done by certified residential appraisers...not licensed ones???

As a side note...if you have work files in your office that are past the required retention period of 5 years and the state happens to visit your office those could be fair game for compliance reviews. I recommend, in my USPAP classes, that once the five years is up...get rid of them. Dead men tell no tales!
 

USPAP Compliant

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if you have work files in your office that are past the required retention period of 5 years and the state happens to visit your office those could be fair game for compliance reviews.


Sounds more like unfair game to me. Unless state staute or published board rules require more than 5 years.....this will never fly.

Sounds like holding different appraisers to different standards. What is fair about that?
 

Patti Jury

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Mike...

Your are probably right about the State.
but if they are that desperate...than so be it. I have enough stuff against them and the things they ignored too over the past 10 years. Also with the changes in USPAP over the past 10 years...they would have to hard time going back and seeing what was compliant at the time. I am slowly trying to ditch old files..But my experience has told me that some of my old files are kind of fun to go back and look at. This is my blood and sweat. I learn a lot by looking at them from time to time. I call it a review of myself!

It is also fun to see the techno..advances.

I doubt they have the resources available to worry about it. And more importantly...I have nothing to hide!
 
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Mike Garrett RAA

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It was funny...a couple of years ago one of the investigators for the state called my and asked if I had a 2002 USPAP. She was handling a case and didn't have a copy of USPAP that applied at the time.
 

DHeriford

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Patti i can tell you what happened when i applied for my cert, beyond that i wouldn't know. However i did apply for my cr a couple of months ago and was approved, i would not expect the process to have changed to much (at least beyond what is required).

I sent my application in along with my log for the past three years (i went from reg to cr). Approx 2 weeks later i recieved a letter along with a copy of my log. They stated, they wanted copies of three workfiles, so they could review my work (they picked the properties from the last 15 or 20 reports i did). So i pulled the files made copies of everything and shipped it to Denver. I think it was 4 or 5 weeks later i started harrassing them about what was going on, at first i couldn't get a straight answer but after pushing every day i finally got the message that my application had been approved.

As far as complex assignments go, the process i went threw you have no choice on which workfiles you send them. They choose for you. Hope that helps and good luck on your application.
 
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