HELP! Any NEW Florida Appraisers who can help with Florida trainee experience log questions?

[jphelan104]

I’ve been a trainee in Florida for the last 4.5 years and am finally trying to put together my experience log and am pretty confused. I was wondering if anyone has recently put one together. I know the state is particular about the log however I find their instructions vague. I’ve tried calling the state multiple times and get someone who is just reading the instructions and making their own interpretations. If anyone has a recently submitted log that was approved, I would love to see just one page of it as an example.

Specifically, the way I am reading it is:

1) In columns I,II,IV I need to enter the amount of time spent on these areas. Let's assume 1 hour each = 3 hours and check marks for columns IV-X for any area that I assisted on. My supervisor would then put the TOTAL hours worked on the report which could be closer to 6-10 depending on the job. - Is this correct?

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T = Registered Trainee Appraiser (Applicant) S = Supervisory Appraiser: Registered Trainees Must indicate which portions of the assignment they contributed by putting the number of hours contributed in items I, II & III, and fill in the check box in Columns I through X with an 'X' and ensure that a separate log is maintained with each Supervisor during the working Supervisory relationship.

12	Level of Supervising Appraiser's Supervision: For each assignment, the Supervisory Appraiser (S) must indicate:
	whether they had Primary Responsibility (P); Co-appraised (C); Reviewed and Approved (R) for each portion of each assignment listed and,
	The number of hours contributed by the Trainee (T) for each assignment in Columns I through X above in the "Hours Recorded" column.

2) From the instructions portion of the log it states this. Is this accurate or worded poorly. I never saw anywhere that I was required to have 150 hours within the first 6 months of being licensed (a different log was being used at the time). I was working in an appraisal office however, was working a lot on clerical assignments which don't count as experience. I started working more consistently in the field in 2018. Do I start the log from first job since being licensed or start in 2018 when the experience was consistent. Currently, I have worked on 100's of appraisals over 4.5 years. Does really matter how many hours were gained after getting licensed? What if I couldn't find a supervisor or if supervisor had minimal work......

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Checklist Items for Trainee: For each assignment, please write in the number of hours completed by the Trainee for Checklist items I, II, and III. The hours worked on these items must be a minimum of 150 hours within the first 6 months. For Items IV through X, please place a check mark in the box for each item where the Trainee participated in the assignment.

3) Do you think its safe to assume every single job does NOT need to go on the log as long as I record enough jobs that meet the requirements. I don't want to log over 200 jobs if I don't need to just bc the form is so tedious to fill out.


Thank you!!

 

[glenn walker]

I’ve been a trainee in Florida for the last 4.5 years and am finally trying to put together my experience log and am pretty confused. I was wondering if anyone has recently put one together. I know the state is particular about the log however I find their instructions vague. I’ve tried calling the state multiple times and get someone who is just reading the instructions and making their own interpretations.

I think you need to call your State Board -also after 4.5 years I would think your supervisory appraiser or mentor would have the answer to this question. If not he/she could not be mentoring you.

 

[jphelan104]

I think you need to call your State Board -also after 4.5 years I would think your supervisory appraiser or mentor would have the answer to this question. If not he/she could not be mentoring you.

I called The Department of Business and Professional Regulation because they are the one who I submit the log to. I can try the State Board. Thank you for that suggestion.

They are consistently changing the rules and log here in Florida. He has had many trainees over his 35 years of appraising however, as I'm sure you know States change requirements. I am the first trainee required to use new log. He is a great mentor and I don't think the lack of understanding a log he has never been required to use changes that.

 

[Russ Kitzberger]

It is usually better to include more hours than the minimum. The boards can reduce what hours they will count, but they will rarely add.

1. That seems to be a correct assessment.
2. 150 in first 6 months, might be a new requirement, most state boards have the ability to grandfather and waive requirements if you do not qualify.

As far as what ifs, it is just like any other profession or trade, if your mentorship leaves or there is not work, that might make it impossible to get licensed. The same issue happens to other professions, if you are in a resident learning to be a Dr, if your hospital lays off all the attending physicians, you need to find another program. Same with podiatrists, ect. Trades are the same way; If you are an apprentice electrician or plumber and your area doesn't have work, then you are out of work and can't get your experience to move to the next level. Happened to a lot of tradespeople in the recession.

If you are uncomfortable with change or lack of work; I would get your license, but take a careful look when the downturn happens at your career prospects.

 

[jphelan104]

It is usually better to include more hours than the minimum. The boards can reduce what hours they will count, but they will rarely add.

1. That seems to be a correct assessment.
2. 150 in first 6 months, might be a new requirement, most state boards have the ability to grandfather and waive requirements if you do not qualify.

As far as what ifs, it is just like any other profession or trade, if your mentorship leaves or there is not work, that might make it impossible to get licensed. The same issue happens to other professions, if you are in a resident learning to be a Dr, if your hospital lays off all the attending physicians, you need to find another program. Same with podiatrists, ect. Trades are the same way; If you are an apprentice electrician or plumber and your area doesn't have work, then you are out of work and can't get your experience to move to the next level. Happened to a lot of tradespeople in the recession.

If you are uncomfortable with change or lack of work; I would get your license, but take a careful look when the downturn happens at your career prospects.

Thank you Russ. I am comfortable with the profession and real estate industry just not this log. Seems the state has complicated something that should be easy. I'd rather be spending my time in the field not worry about this.

 

[Russ Kitzberger]

Thank you Russ. I am comfortable with the profession and real estate industry just not this log. Seems the state has complicated something that should be easy. I'd rather be spending my time in the field not worry about this.

That is very optimistic and it is great you enjoy field work. Pm me and I will save your information in case there is a shift in the future towards more compliance than the log. I'll likely be seeking some help with great field working experts when further compliance reigns down onto the industry.

 

[jphelan104]

I just joined this site and for some reason do not see how to PM someone. I see the message icon at the top of the screen but no way to create new message...possibly bc I am a free member it’s not an options?!?!

 

[Russ Kitzberger]

There is always email....

 

[jphelan104]

There is always email....

It doesn’t show me email addresses for members. But my email is jphelan.realestate@gmail.com

 

[Russ Kitzberger]

Thanks sent!