Hey dummy climate fanatics, it ain't co melting antarctica

[Terrel L. Shields]

ever heard of that "publication."

If it isn't sold at Krogers, it must not be real.

Earth-Science Reviews is a monthly peer-reviewed (not that I trust "peers") scientific journal published by Elsevier. It covers all aspects of Earth sciences. The editors-in-chief for this journal are A. Chin, C. Doglioni, J.L. Florsheim, M.F.J. Flower, G.R. Foulger, A. Gómez-Tuena, S. Khan, S. Marriott, A.D. Miall, G.F. Panza, J.A. Sanchez-Cabeza, M. Strecker, E.S. Takle, M. Widdowson, and P.B. Wignall.​

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Elsevier is a French publisher of scientific and medical magazines and textbooks. One on the largest in the world.

Both the Arctic and Antarctic have volcanoes as does every continent on the planet. A recent ice core in Greenland going to basement rocks over 1 mile deep have studied the ice, critters, and air bubbles and found that the climate changes of the past have often been rapid. While most thought these changes could occur only over hundreds or thousands of years, it apparently can occur as short as 10 years. That's a lot more troubling in my mind than volcanoes.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

The vast majority of peer-reviewed, fact-based, and documented data worldwide and domestically support the effects of man-made climate change

That is not true. But all I expect from you. Virtually 100% of the DATA does not support global warming and the only thing that does are COMPUTER MODELS. Even the IPCC (or do you even know who that is) admits they have "low confidence" in most of the projections they endorse. Micheal Mann's research has been wholly discredited and his "hockey stick" has been proven badly flawed and the paper basically withdrawn.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

Can anyone explain why 100% of "warming" is bad for everything? Polar bears, humans, health etc.? Is there no good coming out of it? Then how did the polar bears survive the last warm up? And the one before that, and the younger dryas 10k plus years ago? What about the coral atolls that were doomed 40 years ago yet today are actually 8% larger than before?
Dooms scrolling - everything is bad that isn't exactly the same as it was yesterday.

 

[shrubberyvaluation]

Can anyone explain why 100% of "warming" is bad for everything? Polar bears, humans, health etc.? Is there no good coming out of it? Then how did the polar bears survive the last warm up? And the one before that, and the younger dryas 10k plus years ago? What about the coral atolls that were doomed 40 years ago yet today are actually 8% larger than before?
Dooms scrolling - everything is bad that isn't exactly the same as it was yesterday.

Maybe I don't look enough, but I always pose the question, what is the optimal climate? We are suppose to assume any change is bad automatically.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

what is the optimal climate?

Climate is what it is. No country is more aggressive in regard to climate change than Canada and no country would benefit more from warmer climate. Crops grown further north, lower utility consumption, and EVs might actually work instead of stalling in cold weather. Canada has high energy costs and their standard of living has diminished rapidly over the past 20 years until their average income is now comparable to Mississippi's.

 

[IlliniApp]

NASA -Antarctica has gained ice in recent years, despite increasing average global temperatures and climate change, a new study finds.


Using data from NASA satellites, researchers from Tongji University in Shanghai tracked changes in Antarctica's ice sheet over more than two decades. The overall trend is one of substantial ice loss on the continent, but from 2021 to 2023, Antarctica gained some of that lost ice back.

However, this isn't a sign that global warming and climate change have miraculously reversed. Picture a long ski slope with a small jump at the end. That's what a line through the Antarctic ice sheet data looks like when plotted on a graph. While there have been some recent ice gains, they don't even begin to make up for almost 20 years of losses.

My comment - all that is needed is a simple internet search to put the small gain of ice sheets into perspective.

Again, could you please share why a warming planet is bad, or are you afraid to engage in sensible conversation about this

 

[IlliniApp]

Maybe I don't look enough, but I always pose the question, what is the optimal climate? We are suppose to assume any change is bad automatically.

Exactly. Note that the alarmists can't/Won't tell you what is the optimum temperature for human flourishing. Can't point to an era before the Industrial Revolution that was better.

 

[Mike Ault]

Exactly. Note that the alarmists can't/Won't tell you what is the optimum temperature for human flourishing. Can't point to an era before the Industrial Revolution that was better.

I know you're cold up there. But we're in the middle of a drought down here on the staked plains. Better make room for us.

 

[Terrel L. Shields]

But we're in the middle of a drought down here in the staked plains.

Llano Estacado is part of the Southwest where drought is a constant companion. About 1100 A.D. there was a drought lasting 75 years - from S. California to E. Texas. It's part of the geographic make-up of the region, not much difference than the Sahara morphed from lush temperate zone to expanding desert. N. Mexico did much the same and in the 1500s, drought led to an outbreak of the hantavirus related to mice.

The most logical explanation of the prairie mounds, pimples that are about 5'-10' high and maybe 40' in diameter that dots the level prairies on the East Oklahoma, West Arkansas, and down into Texas, is they are created by drought generated dusts collecting around small clumps of scrubby brush. But some in S. AR, N. LA clearly don't conform to that idea. There are 30 or so theories of origin. That desert occurred as the continental glaciers retreated north leaving a tundra like environment that was very dry.

 

[IlliniApp]

I know you're cold up there. But we're in the middle of a drought down here on the staked plains. Better make room for us.

I don't know if you look at the drought monitor or not, but we are in drought up here too. Zero precip. in the month of February. Only two inches of snow since Jan. 1, which I don't mind. We did get ten inches in November and another 10 in December.