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House Built Into Hillside

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David Morgan

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What style do I call a house built into a hillside with only the front side showing and three sides covered by dirt (the hillside)? Also how do I figure the cost? I cant find anything on Marshall & Swift??? What a piece of junk!
 
Bermed????????????????
 
is it a solar earth home?
 
Texas mole house?

I didn't know Texas had any hills (heels) except on their boots :)
 
USPAP, Ya gotta be competent

David Morgan said:
What style do I call a house built into a hillside with only the front side showing and three sides covered by dirt (the hillside)? Also how do I figure the cost? I cant find anything on Marshall & Swift??? What a piece of junk!

Mr. Morgan,

Obviously, this is your very first earth home... There is nothing wrong with being confronted with something one has never done.. That is right up until you sign the new certifications if you have been requested to use any of the new Fannie Mae forms... USPAP may allow you to state that you have discovered you are not qualified to appraise the real property of your assignment and then explain how it is you are going to become qualified. But Fannie's new certifcations do not allow this... Read slowly certification number eleven... It flat says that you state you are experienced with the property type and market... If you have no idea what to call this house or how to cost it out then you certainly are not experienced with the property being improved with this type of construction or the market reaction to it.

Which also brings up your license type and transaction value... If this puppy is so rare you have never seen one before, it's going to be a complex appraisal assignment... Are you in scope of your license?

Barry Dayton
 
Technically, it sounds to be an earth berm house but the local market 'round here refers to them as underground houses. Be sure to study the local building codes. Good luck!
 
David, typically referred to as "berm" houses, but I believe that most cost manuals refer to them as "earth contact" houses. Basically, it is a basement with a roof and one side open... sometimes two sides open, and I have even seen them with three sides exposed. Regardless of whether your local market refers to them as "underground" houses, that is not what they are. Underground houses are characterized by a roof that is covered or below grade.

Usually there is some functional obsolescence when compared to above ground houses. That is because the floor plan only allows for exit out the open side. If they are constructed correctly, the open side should face south. Also, there can be big differences in construction and finish quality... good ones will have blue board insulation around the outside of the below grade walls. Every now and then you will see one with a second story that is entirely above grade... this is still somewhat different from a raised ranch because the kitchen and other living space is usually still in the below grade section.

Although ANSI says anything with any portion of the floor level is basement, there is an exception for these houses because the items necessary for living are all below grade by that definition. Therefore, you may call the finished living area GLA.

However, you should compare these to other earth contact houses and not to above grade houses. That can lead to problems, depending on the market. I took a little trip through an area of mid-Missouri this weekend and I believe three out of every four houses we saw in one area were berms. In a more typical market area you might be lucky to find one berm sale within a mile within the last year. Obviously, in such a situation, you have to expand the search area and time frame a bit.
 
You also might want to notify your client that this is not eligible for Fannie.
 
Otis Key said:
You also might want to notify your client that this is not eligible for Fannie.

Mr. Key,

Really?.. I would have missed that...Fannie does not like a Berm house?.. In the entire Portland, Oregon area I have only seen one of these ever.. It's roof was basically underground as well as it was soil and sod covered with mechanical and a few skylights sticking out.. I have been darn glad never to have been asked to appraise it... I would think in tornado country this would make a wonderful design if you could find a hill for it!.. ;)

Barry Dayton
 
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